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  Reply # 661971 25-Jul-2012 19:00 Send private message

old3eyes:
KiwiNZ: Better they launch late than launch broken.


+1. ?Most companies these day just launch a product and try to fix it when the money starts rolling in.?


Cough Telstraclear TBox

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  Reply # 661977 25-Jul-2012 19:08 Send private message

langers1972:
old3eyes:
KiwiNZ: Better they launch late than launch broken.


+1. ?Most companies these day just launch a product and try to fix it when the money starts rolling in.?


Cough Telstraclear TBox


Well TCL used both strategies with the TBox - they delayed it (by at least a year iirc) and when they finally did release it, well you know the rest

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  Reply # 661981 25-Jul-2012 19:18 Send private message

openmedia:
Jaxson:
mattwnz:

From stuff

"Customers will be able to watch All Blacks, some Super 15 and Warriors games and some other big sporting events for about $14.95 per match."


Ouch that is quite high. Is that going to be in HD I wonder?


+1 Ouch.? And yeah, in HD for that price?!


As far as I'm aware Igloo content is SD only.

Yeah $15 is too steep for a single match.


I had heard that the freeview channels would be in HD, but maybe not? Freeview at least should be in HD as most other non satellite receivers are HD as standard.

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  Reply # 662220 26-Jul-2012 10:27 Send private message

The igloo simply tunes to the Freeview DVB-T muxes, i.e., you are watching the native Freeview HD transmissions. As for the single Sky T2 mux it can only support 38 Mbps max which provides 12 H.264 channels at 3 Mbps or so.




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  Reply # 674455 20-Aug-2012 10:06 Send private message

Anyone had any update on when the boxes will be available .
Keep getting the same message from Igloo for last two months  ( Its delayed  but will be soon )  lol


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  Reply # 681846 5-Sep-2012 14:54 Send private message

Hi Kiwisteve,

In early July, Chaz Savage (CEO) announced that they were going to trial Igloo for a month using 25 selected comsumers and, on 17th July, we set up one of those 25 in Hamilton for his one month trial.

But then, on 28th August, we set up a trialist in Morrinsville for her one month trial! So I guess that means they're now looking at October?

Cheers,   WildBill

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  Reply # 681847 5-Sep-2012 14:57 Send private message

if it's anything like iSky, it will be in 'Beta' for at least 2 years

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  Reply # 685923 14-Sep-2012 10:42 Send private message

Apparently today is the go/no-go point. There's a meeting this morning to decide on if they're ready yet.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/7673803/Igloo-set-for-launch-of-pay-TV

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  Reply # 685962 14-Sep-2012 12:35 Send private message

So far I have been unimpressed with their email responses on delays
and general user questions ,  
you get the (  nearly ready ) standard email  every time  
and they could not even answer a simple question which was
( How does the user pay the monthly  fee ) ??

S

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  Reply # 685966 14-Sep-2012 12:41 Send private message

kiwisteve: So far I have been unimpressed with their email responses on delays
and general user questions ,  
you get the (  nearly ready ) standard email  every time  
and they could not even answer a simple question which was
( How does the user pay the monthly  fee ) ??

S


Igloo really seems like something that sounded like a good idea during a brain storming session but in the cold light of day didn't seem so great after all. 

The market niche they are trying to hit is people who need a Freeview box and want some 'basic' Sky channels along with some pay per view stuff like sport. But they have to be careful not to cannibalise 'real' Sky so the pay per view sport is priced high enough that there isn't a mass change by Sky subscription payers. This is a small market and not likely to grow.

My call is Igloo will melt to a small puddle which will evaporate leaving only memories. 




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  Reply # 685973 14-Sep-2012 12:52 Send private message

In my opinion , the box is crippled from day one , no PVR function to USB external drive .
This is often the number one question from people doing the swap from analogue to freeview digital , Can we record it ?

Even the basic  Freeview or Satellite box has that feature these days !!

Yes I would say it might have a short life !!




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  Reply # 685992 14-Sep-2012 13:18 Send private message

kiwisteve: In my opinion , the box is crippled from day one , no PVR function to USB external drive .



Are you sure on that?

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  Reply # 686006 14-Sep-2012 13:31 Send private message

knoydart:
kiwisteve: In my opinion , the box is crippled from day one , no PVR function to USB external drive .



Are you sure on that?


Well won't know for sure until it is finally released (if ever) but initial comments suggested it had live pause capability only via USB drive.

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  Reply # 686013 14-Sep-2012 13:38 Send private message

Jaxson:
knoydart:
kiwisteve: In my opinion , the box is crippled from day one , no PVR function to USB external drive .



Are you sure on that?


Well won't know for sure until it is finally released (if ever) but initial comments suggested it had live pause capability only via USB drive.


Yeah, no final specs have been released. I'd say not even Sky are sure. 

I would say that issue is symptomatic of the wider problem for Sky with Igloo. They add a record function and MySky becomes that little bit less attractive.

Sure, not everybody would switch if record function is added but the question is; When does Igloo become a realist alternative to the average Sky subscriber and how do we offer a service people will pay for without reaching that point? 

I don't think Sky ever managed to answer that question and that will sink Igloo. 




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  Reply # 686024 14-Sep-2012 14:01 Send private message

Sky have to do something though don't they, and soon, otherwise they will lose their UHF frequencies??




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