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  Reply # 427854 17-Jan-2011 09:00 Send private message

old3eyes:
nigelj: 
It's actually funny, I phoned up Sky and complained about this just the other day (although the primary reason was a decoder issue), naturally the response was "It's an Australian channel, we don't get access to that stuff".

I basically told her, that to me it didn't add up as Foxtel use the exact same decoders (pretty much) and it's extremely confusing/etc.  The Red Button/Active content that Foxtel has, is far superior to Sky's lack of content (the Weather channel in Australia is far superior).

Case in point for Sky News' Red Button services is the Queensland Floods, where they had about 4 channels worth of flood coverage (the flood coverage that NZ got, + at one point 2 live cameras + some other coverage which I think was on their Sky Business channel).

They also had the Red button setup for the Winter Olympics (although I left Australia before then, so never got a chance to try it out).

They have the technology, it's a pity they don't use it.

(for what it's worth, the CSR 'escalated' it to their Programming team, and indicated I'd hear back soon, more people calling in asking for it might help)


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l43a2:
allstarnz: yes, I agree. They need to get the active part, or stop advertising it.


the active stuff is mostly AUS based.. do you REALLY want that much aussie based news :P


Sky News is already AUS based, but have had great coverage of New Zealand events as well, in some cases better than TVNZ/TV3, particularly in Pike River (their Earthquake coverage was also decent).  It's a pity we can't get ABC World 24 (Australia) as well (instead of RT).


 

Does Foxtel use cable for their pay TV service which allows  interactive mode??  Sky NZ using  sat  would have to use the internet (most likely what the Ethernet port on MySky is for)  for a similar function or your dialup everytime you wanted to use interactive..


Cable and Sat. they use optus D1,C1 and D3 I think

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  Reply # 427890 17-Jan-2011 10:19 Send private message

old3eyes:
nigelj: 
It's actually funny, I phoned up Sky and complained about this just the other day (although the primary reason was a decoder issue), naturally the response was "It's an Australian channel, we don't get access to that stuff".

I basically told her, that to me it didn't add up as Foxtel use the exact same decoders (pretty much) and it's extremely confusing/etc.  The Red Button/Active content that Foxtel has, is far superior to Sky's lack of content (the Weather channel in Australia is far superior).

Case in point for Sky News' Red Button services is the Queensland Floods, where they had about 4 channels worth of flood coverage (the flood coverage that NZ got, + at one point 2 live cameras + some other coverage which I think was on their Sky Business channel).

They also had the Red button setup for the Winter Olympics (although I left Australia before then, so never got a chance to try it out).

They have the technology, it's a pity they don't use it.

(for what it's worth, the CSR 'escalated' it to their Programming team, and indicated I'd hear back soon, more people calling in asking for it might help)


Edit:

l43a2:
allstarnz: yes, I agree. They need to get the active part, or stop advertising it.


the active stuff is mostly AUS based.. do you REALLY want that much aussie based news :P


Sky News is already AUS based, but have had great coverage of New Zealand events as well, in some cases better than TVNZ/TV3, particularly in Pike River (their Earthquake coverage was also decent).  It's a pity we can't get ABC World 24 (Australia) as well (instead of RT).


 

Does Foxtel use cable for their pay TV service which allows  interactive mode??  Sky NZ using  sat  would have to use the internet (most likely what the Ethernet port on MySky is for)  for a similar function or your dialup everytime you wanted to use interactive..


I was in a building where Foxtel was delivered over Sat and it worked fine sans phone line.  The common misconception seems to be that Foxtel is cable only, and Austar is Sat only, but really it's Foxtel Cable/Sat (Urban Only) and Austar Sat (Rural only).

Also, there are Active services in NZ, Sky Sports atm have a Red Button service for voting in the Cricket competitions - although I think submitting the vote/data uses the phoneline.

Also...
DS9:
Cable and Sat. they use optus D1,C1 and D3 I think


I've got a feeling it's D3 only now by the way Foxtel advertised it  prior to switch over in November 2009

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  Reply # 428548 18-Jan-2011 19:07 Send private message

Just a few wishes:

1. Make the Sky Sport watermark smaller

2. Make Sky Sport 3 HD

3. Get Sky Sports News (UK) for a few hours a day instead of Fox Sports News.

4. More HD channels, of course (paying $10 a month for less HD channels than i can count on 1 hand is daylight robbery)

5. Get rights for the FA Cup and the League Cup, as well as nabbing the Champions League and La Liga rights off ESPN so we don't have to put up with their rubbish commentary team.

+1 for the Sky News UK suggestion a few posts above too.

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  Reply # 428578 18-Jan-2011 20:19 Send private message

+1 for making the watermark smaller, it's annoying - esp in dark scenes in movies.

Stop those occasional adds in the shape of a spinning rugby ball that pop up in a corner of the screen during rugby games - they are very irritating, and do the exact opposite of making me appreciate the sponsor/advertiser. I am paying good money for UNINTERRUPTED sports coverage. If I wanted to be pestered and interrupted, I would cancel the sports package and watch the FTA coverage on Prime.

How many times in a programme do I need an ad telling me (blare of trumpets) that Sky is my happy place. I heard them the 10th time. It's not so much advertising as saturation bombing - they are starting to turn Sky into my irritating place.

On the subject of ads, I wish they would reduce the frequency of ad breaks on channels like History, Vibe and Comedy Central - or at least vary the ads shown a bit. I tried to watch something on CC last night, and got an ad break every 7 minutes (about 6 of them) all of which seemed to have exactly the same ads. I don't need to watch the new "head case" series now, they have just shown me an amalgam of all the punch lines (exactly the same) seven times in around an hour! The RWC "Camera man ads" were funny the first 2-3 times, tedious the next 20-30 times, and are now just damn annoying.


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  Reply # 428582 18-Jan-2011 20:25 Send private message

i believe sky doesnt have control over history channel etc, as its coming from AUS, so when they have adverts, sky must have them too.. someone correct me if im wrong.





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  Reply # 428675 19-Jan-2011 08:05 Send private message

l43a2: i believe sky doesnt have control over history channel etc, as its coming from AUS, so when they have adverts, sky must have them too.. someone correct me if im wrong.


Correct, Sky doesn't get much control over those channels. 




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  Reply # 428685 19-Jan-2011 08:38 Send private message


2. Make Sky Sport 3 HD
4. More HD channels, of course (paying $10 a month for less HD channels than i can count on 1 hand is daylight robbery)
5. Get rights for the FA Cup and the League Cup, as well as nabbing the Champions League and La Liga rights off ESPN so we don't have to put up with their rubbish commentary team.

I agree totally!!!
If ESPN (International)is going to be captured by all things soccer cricket and 6 nations rugby please pretty please give us the american version 

Sky sports 1,2,3 already show bucket loads of the above sports 
Our little bastion of all things American is slowly being eroded
Having said that loving the College Basketball coverage...cooool 
But missing half the NFL playoffs just plain suxs 

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  Reply # 428910 19-Jan-2011 17:53 Send private message

wish sky make a deal with foxtel so all the ere channels get all rebroadcasted to new zealand too.
or foxtel come to new zealand




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  Reply # 428911 19-Jan-2011 18:00 Send private message

I thought that is what the second feed that mysky users get cabled up was supposed to allow for?




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  Reply # 428912 19-Jan-2011 18:00 Send private message

cws82us: wish sky make a deal with foxtel so all the ere channels get all rebroadcasted to new zealand too.
or foxtel come to new zealand


+1 Foxtel in NZ even though I know it cannot happen completely as a lot of Foxtel channels are on aus spot beams.

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  Reply # 429044 20-Jan-2011 01:04 Send private message

cws82us: wish sky make a deal with foxtel so all the ere channels get all rebroadcasted to new zealand too.
or foxtel come to new zealand


This will likely never happen unfortunately, the reason - broadcast rights.  This is the exact same reason that UKTV in Australia and New Zealand are so different, (UKTV can't get rights to Eastenders in Australia (I think that was the big one in question) and can't get rights to Coro Street in NZ (as TVNZ has it)).

I do agree though, it would be lovely if Foxtel could broadcast to New Zealand.

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  Reply # 430819 25-Jan-2011 01:02 Send private message

I would like a dedicated gay and lesbian tv channel, like LOGO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_(TV_channel) which is owned by MTV in the USA and is available to 35 million homes. Im thinking the channel could be like the TE REO maori channel which is broadcast on freeview and skytv for only a few hours each night. And if parents were concerned about the content of the channel they could use the parental lock to block out the channel.

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  Reply # 430822 25-Jan-2011 01:14 Send private message

peterbrown68: I would like a dedicated gay and lesbian tv channel, like LOGO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_(TV_channel) which is owned by MTV in the USA and is available to 35 million homes. Im thinking the channel could be like the TE REO maori channel which is broadcast on freeview and skytv for only a few hours each night. And if parents were concerned about the content of the channel they could use the parental lock to block out the channel.


On sky you have no choice with the parental lock disfeature which is one of the reasons I told them to stuff off, coming home to a VHS full of a pin entry screen one time too many.




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  Reply # 430823 25-Jan-2011 01:22 Send private message

Well richms I was under the impression that you could block certain tv channels (not just R18 content) on skytv by going though the user settings on the decoder. Anyway back in 2007 in Australia there was a gay and lesbian dedicated tv channel. Below is a news item: 

Gay and Lesbian cable channel Curve TV has been dropped by Australian Pay TV provider SelecTV.
SelecTV is a smaller subsciption network offering packages that specialise in languages. The CurveTV package which was launched in mid 2006 was meant to appeal to G&L viewers with content built upon the Candian Out Network output in the US.

But SelecTV has a pricey set-up of several hundred dollars for satellite dishes, and nowhere near the marketing push of Foxtel or Optus.

Curve did next to no advertising in the G&L marketplace. The pink dollar is readily available to those who deliver aggressive and comprehensive content. Much of Out’s output is lightweight infotainment and reality fare. There’s not a lot by way of queer drama. And gay viewers want more than gay shows. Whilst the Curve package included Movie One, Movie Extra, MTV, Ovation, E!, and BBC, big ticket channels like Fox8 and Arena which include drama were missing.

The failure of Curve will be closely analysed by Foxtel who are on record as saying a G&L channel was only a matter of time.

Select TV network in Australia offered the Curve TV package, for only $24.95 per month.

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  Reply # 430826 25-Jan-2011 02:04 Send private message

Anyway I reckon a dedicated gay and lesbian channel would be a great way for sky tv to make lots of money though advertisers wanting to advertise to the gay and lesbian community. The channel could be cheap to run as people in the gay community could volunteer to help run the network just like with GLBT radio stations, and it would only need to broadcast for a few hours each night. Well thats my wish for 2011 in regards to skytv.

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