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Topic # 94046 5-Dec-2011 09:19

Hi,


I'm looking at getting my first DSLR, I'm think of spending up to $1500. I'm a bit confused with all the options out there and a little advice would be appreciated :)


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  Reply # 553879 5-Dec-2011 09:43 Send private message

Have you read the two big threads that were created recently about this same thing?

If I were getting an entry level camera now i'd get the D7000 then add a standard zoom lens, but that'd come to more like $2000. The D5100 plus 17-55 VR kit is $1270 from photo.co.nz and with a 55-200 lens it's about $1600.

The Canon 600D is another option. Last year I sold $12,000 worth of Canon semi pro gear because of ongoing focus issues, even though i'd been using Canon for 5+ years, and bought even more Nikon pro gear, so i'm going to recommend Nikon.




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  Reply # 553901 5-Dec-2011 10:08

timmmay: Have you read the two big threads that were created recently about this same thing?

If I were getting an entry level camera now i'd get the D7000 then add a standard zoom lens, but that'd come to more like $2000. The D5100 plus 17-55 VR kit is $1270 from photo.co.nz and with a 55-200 lens it's about $1600.

The Canon 600D is another option. Last year I sold $12,000 worth of Canon semi pro gear because of ongoing focus issues, even though i'd been using Canon for 5+ years, and bought even more Nikon pro gear, so i'm going to recommend Nikon.


It seemed the other threads were mentioning cameras above my price range. I have been leaning towards the D5100 or D3100 and trying to figure out the best lens combo to go with it. 

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  Reply # 553902 5-Dec-2011 10:09 Send private message

18-55 is a good starter lens. Good lenses cost way more than cameras, especially good quality zooms with a constant F2.8 aperture.




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  Reply # 554285 5-Dec-2011 23:36 Send private message

If it's your first DSLR, you want to make sure you enjoy it and use it before you spend a fortune. Personally I like Canon, and have three Canon digicams including a DSLR over the last 8 years. My advice here is for Canon, as that's what I know, but Nikon also make good kit which is just as good and have equivalent models. Personally, I would avoid Sony, I don't like the brand and don't feel they are up to Canon and Nikon for DLSRs quality.

I suggest ignoring the absolute bottom of the barrel entry level model (the 1100) and going for the 600D, which is a hell of a camera for the money and should be able to be obtained in your price range. Get the kit lenses to start with, they aren't great, but will do. Also, get a reasonable memory card (8 or 16 GB). If you haven't used an SLR before, invest in a good beginners book (DSLRs for Dummies, something by Michael Freeman, or similar). Then go nuts taking photos - have a good play, take a lot of shots, and get used to it.

Only then, when you are comfortable with the camera and certain you will use it a bit should you spend more money. Before spending a fortune on new lenses, I would suggest a spare battery (a generic can be had for circa $30), as there's no point having a good camera if you run out of juice at the critical moment, and an external flash (the 430ex is good) which will make a hell of a difference to many shots - esp indoors.

Later you can start adding lenses, and good ones cost so think carefully. You are better to get one or two good lenses for the shots you take a lot of (wide-angle, zoom, fast for action etc), than a whole swag of mediocre lenses.


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  Reply # 554287 5-Dec-2011 23:46 Send private message

some of the canon models come with an EF-S 18-135 kit lens. wouldnt that be a better option than the 18-55? Perhaps nikon offer the same?

i have a entry level canon 1000d with the EF-S 18-55 IS and the EF-S 75-300 non-IS (twin lens kit) and i find that 55 isnt big enough, but the 75 is too big, so i have to do a lot of lens swapping. i'm not going to be a photographer, so unlikely to spend a lot buying more lenses :P


edit: updated IS/non-IS on lenses (image stabilisation) 




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  Reply # 554324 6-Dec-2011 08:51 Send private message

The Canon 18-135 and 18-55 are both F3.5-F5.6, so no difference there. In general the bigger the zoom, the worse the image quality, but for kit lenses it probably makes little difference.

18-55 on a crop sensor camera is roughly equivalent to 24-70 on a full frame camera, which I use for 80% of my wedding photos. On holiday I use my 16-35 a lot more, and I don't even take the 24-70 any more. Ideally i'd have a 16-35 and 85mm prime on holiday, but in practice I have a 50mm and that's close enough.




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  Reply # 554341 6-Dec-2011 09:35 Send private message

I found the Canon EOS D550 to be a very good entry level camera. To save a few dollars, I bought the body without the mediocre kit lens, and got a good second hand 17-85mm EF-S lens.
The image quality of this lens is far superior to the 18-55mm kit lens, and focuses a lot quicker to boot.
All up it owes me less that $1500
 

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  Reply # 554345 6-Dec-2011 09:45 Send private message

I used two copies of the 17-85 lens, and I swore i'd never use one again. I found it incredibly soft. Of course lenses vary, but I really had bad luck with that lens. On the other hand my 18-55 was fine.




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  Reply # 554347 6-Dec-2011 09:53 Send private message

Sounds like you just got a bad run on your lenses.
Mine compares happily to my 24-105 f/4L lens for sharpness, and focus speed, while being 1/3 of the price. 
Why would you be using a EF-S lens on a semi pro rig anyway?  

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  Reply # 554351 6-Dec-2011 09:56 Send private message

The 7D is semi pro, and it's EF-s. I only used the 17-85 while my proper lenses were being repaired, I must've dropped them or something.

True that lenses vary, I seem to get the bad ones... plus I think i'm more particular about my images than most people. Gota be if you're pro :)




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  Reply # 554369 6-Dec-2011 10:57 Send private message

I got an extremely good deal on a canon D1100 twin lens kit, as a n00b dslr guy, I am very happy with it. It is the entry level camera undoubtedly, but certainly good enough to practice getting the hang of manually controlling a 'real' camera.
Have has some really successful pix.

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  Reply # 554422 6-Dec-2011 12:52 Send private message

Regs: some of the canon models come with an EF-S 18-135 kit lens. wouldnt that be a better option than the 18-55? Perhaps nikon offer the same?
 


I mainly use the Nikon 18-105VR and I'm very happy with it. It's affordable, versatile, and the image quality is very reasonable by consumer level zoom standards. 

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  Reply # 554439 6-Dec-2011 13:15 Send private message

jofizz: I got an extremely good deal on a canon D1100 twin lens kit, as a n00b dslr guy, I am very happy with it. It is the entry level camera undoubtedly, but certainly good enough to practice getting the hang of manually controlling a 'real' camera.
Have has some really successful pix.

Cheers,
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Well this is awkward. I mean of course an 1100D.
 

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  Reply # 554539 6-Dec-2011 16:17 Send private message

My 2 cents? save a bit more money and get the Nikon D7000!
I was like you looking for something around the $1500 budget and then I found the D7000 and fell in love with it!!!

I would rather not have a DSLR at all for just a little bit longer and then get a D7000 with 18-105mm and 70-300mm lenses...

From all the reviews and comments Ive seen nothing else comes even close to the D7000...

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  Reply # 554889 7-Dec-2011 10:40 Send private message

Bee:

From all the reviews and comments Ive seen nothing else comes even close to the D7000...
Easy: Pentax K-5.

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