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  Reply # 710163 1-Nov-2012 01:44 Send private message

CYaBro:
kiwirock: You're right about some places not having adequate cell coverage.

I went to Karamea a few months back and nothing worked with mobiles or sticks. They were lucky enough to have ADSL.

It'd be good for accommodation places in more remote areas.

I looked at these kind of partnership hotspot things for just in my neighbourhood, but sadly it's always on low powered devices. I have Ubiquiti long range units (1-4 Watts) that let me walk 1KM away and still use my iPod, it'd be great getting firmware on to something like those!


Cheers,
Gavin.


You can do what we've done and connect a high powered/outdoor wireless access point to port 1,2 or 3 on the router running the Zappie firmware. (You have to enable this via the Zappie portal)
Then just configured it as an open wireless network, with the same SSID or different if you want, and it works.  People connecting to the outdoor AP still get the Zappie landing page etc.


Yes that's the best way, just connect an outdoor high power AP to router.  I could also compile some zappie firmware for ubiquity ap's if required if anyone wants it, but at the end of the day its probably better just to use them with stock firmware and same ssid as CYaBro mentioned and connect to ports in back of router, this way you can also have multiple outdoor ap's connected.

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  Reply # 710342 1-Nov-2012 12:27 Send private message

One other suggestion unless already implemented, I've noticed a few services in town like Kordia and the one's they carry like TomiZone and Orconet hotspots etc...  There needs to be something that disassociates clients after XX say 10 minutes, unless they log on to a router.

That wouldn't work running a separate AP obviously. The reason? Having a great location for an AP up high doesn't take a long time before a guru figures out he can use the AP for his own wireless link between associated clients.

I tested this to see if it would work and it does. Just assigning a static private manually on each client, point it to one of the public hotspot services on the local 8 floor hotel, and you have a Wi-Fi link. There should be something to circumvent that.


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  Reply # 710386 1-Nov-2012 13:30 Send private message

kiwirock: One other suggestion unless already implemented, I've noticed a few services in town like Kordia and the one's they carry like TomiZone and Orconet hotspots etc...  There needs to be something that disassociates clients after XX say 10 minutes, unless they log on to a router.

That wouldn't work running a separate AP obviously. The reason? Having a great location for an AP up high doesn't take a long time before a guru figures out he can use the AP for his own wireless link between associated clients.

I tested this to see if it would work and it does. Just assigning a static private manually on each client, point it to one of the public hotspot services on the local 8 floor hotel, and you have a Wi-Fi link. There should be something to circumvent that.



Just turn on client isolation on your AP and you're fine -- then your client devices can't talk to anyone else associated to the same AP.

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  Reply # 710408 1-Nov-2012 13:52 Send private message

Does that isolate at MAC level?

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  Reply # 710474 1-Nov-2012 15:51 Send private message

kiwirock: Does that isolate at MAC level?


Yes.  A true AP doesn't know anything about IP addresses anyway (ok, apart from where its management interface lives).



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  Reply # 715613 11-Nov-2012 23:00 Send private message

All ours have ap isolation enabled by default, however it wont work for wired clients going through a standard switch, eh with cabling to guest rooms etc...

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  Reply # 715628 12-Nov-2012 06:06 Send private message

gareth41: All ours have ap isolation enabled by default, however it wont work for wired clients going through a standard switch, eh with cabling to guest rooms etc...


If you want isolation of wired connections you either need to use VLAN's to do this or a switch that offers port isolation. Cisco SF200 and 300's do this well stating at around $800 or so for a 24 port switch.



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  Reply # 715643 12-Nov-2012 08:04 Send private message

Looks good, but you spelt friends wrong - Smile

Managing your hotspot:

This is where the action begins, the hotspot manager provides everything you need to print vouchers, view revenue, view usage, give freinds special access, enable free wifi, and overall manage your wireless hotspot. 




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  Reply # 715761 12-Nov-2012 12:19 Send private message

semigeek: Looks good, but you spelt friends wrong - Smile

Managing your hotspot:

This is where the action begins, the hotspot manager provides everything you need to print vouchers, view revenue, view usage, give freinds special access, enable free wifi, and overall manage your wireless hotspot. 


Thanks, its fixed now.

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