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  Reply # 650669 4-Jul-2012 15:10

As pointed out above - its much the same as getting gas installed in your street.
Either you stump up to connect to the mains in the street or you wont get it.
This is much the same as building a house and not digging a trench to connect to the current phone system.

As I understand it, Chorus (and other companies that are doing the rollout) are installing in the streets and the demarcation point will be in the street.

What does need to be considered is that, it will cost you money for you to connect your house to fibre.
If you had your phone line run within a PVC pipe (dont know how long this has been the practice) its apparently theoretically possible to 'blow' the fibre wires down (provided there are no obstructions etc). Dont know what that would cost or whether a cottage industry will spring up to do this.

The other potential solution is to have a handover point (in your street or nearest cabinet) that connects the existing copper to fibre. This is of course not ideal, but would/should still improve your connection rather a lot. I understand that this is being considered and evaluated.




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  Reply # 650673 4-Jul-2012 15:16 Send private message

In case anyone is interested I have Chorus doing my install on Friday ... will be interesting




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  Reply # 650707 4-Jul-2012 15:39 Send private message

maverick: In case anyone is interested I have Chorus doing my install on Friday ... will be interesting


So who's your provider? Wink

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Well I was thinking about Orcon but god damn I cant stand that purple thing they have going on, I was going to then look at TCL but the whole Voda / TCL thing leaves me nervous whos buying who ???, for my next choice I was going to look at Slingshot but since I'm such a hater of anything freeware and Asterisk that ruled them out right from the start ... So I think I will go with those awesome guys and girls at WxC because I just want to set and forget as I'm a bit flakey on this technology stuff so best to have a team that can do that for me.... when you want the best go with the best is what I say Tongue Out

Please no one take offence here I'm just having a laugh 





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  Reply # 650731 4-Jul-2012 16:06 Send private message

maverick: Well I was thinking about Orcon but god damn I cant stand that purple thing they have going on, I was going to then look at TCL but the whole Voda / TCL thing leaves me nervous whos buying who ???, for my next choice I was going to look at Slingshot but since I'm such a hater of anything freeware and Asterisk that ruled them out right from the start ... So I think I will go with those awesome guys and girls at WxC because I just want to set and forget as I'm a bit flakey on this technology stuff so best to have a team that can do that for me.... when you want the best go with the best is what I say Tongue Out

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  Reply # 650797 4-Jul-2012 18:01 Send private message

Thanks Antonios I appreciate that :) ... Will try I have my Chorus account team here as well to watch over me and the install.... I don't think they trust me to keep out of it :) ... thinking of put a web cam up for people to watch




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  Reply # 650863 4-Jul-2012 20:07 Send private message

maverick: was going to look at Slingshot but since I'm such a hater of anything freeware and Asterisk that ruled them out right from the start ... So I think I will go with those awesome guys and girls at WxC


Dont WxC run their voip system on asterisk?




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  Reply # 650870 4-Jul-2012 20:11 Send private message

Broadsoft I think




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  Reply # 650878 4-Jul-2012 20:21 Send private message

raytaylor:
maverick: was going to look at Slingshot but since I'm such a hater of anything freeware and Asterisk that ruled them out right from the start ... So I think I will go with those awesome guys and girls at WxC


Dont WxC run their voip system on asterisk?


You really are trying to wind Phil up! Smile

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  Reply # 650880 4-Jul-2012 20:22 Send private message

sbiddle:
raytaylor:
maverick: was going to look at Slingshot but since I'm such a hater of anything freeware and Asterisk that ruled them out right from the start ... So I think I will go with those awesome guys and girls at WxC


Dont WxC run their voip system on asterisk?


You really are trying to wind Phil up! Smile

They use Broadsoft.


Interesting, i always thought it would be asterisk.




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  Reply # 650882 4-Jul-2012 20:28 Send private message

raytaylor:
sbiddle:
raytaylor:
maverick: was going to look at Slingshot but since I'm such a hater of anything freeware and Asterisk that ruled them out right from the start ... So I think I will go with those awesome guys and girls at WxC


Dont WxC run their voip system on asterisk?


You really are trying to wind Phil up! Smile

They use Broadsoft.


Interesting, i always thought it would be asterisk.


Why? They're not comparable products.

Asterisk is a PBX. Broadworks is a fully featured softswitch. They are two completely different products that are suited for completely different things.




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  Reply # 650901 4-Jul-2012 20:52 Send private message

sbiddle: 
 
IMHO at the end of the day (and people are going to scoff at me) I can still see a very real chance of the UFB rollout never being completed come 2014/2015 when some true costs start to mount up.

Why do Chorus want to charge extra for custom installs while other LFC's are saying their will be no charge? Maybe Chorus are the only industry player who knows the true cost of deployment and of truck rolls.

 


Yup, just look at where the first roll outs are ... nice flat and modern suburbs. These have been hand picked because they are cheap compared to a  lot of locations. eg. wellington is going to be a extremely difficult and costly build unless they opt for a lot of above ground network.

Not sure about never getting completed (posible i guess), but i think the s**t is going to hit the fan when they roll the network down the street and then no one connects because they dont want to pay an extra lead in cost.

Everyone is currently riding the rainbow to the dream factory but their aint any parachute for when they wake up.




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  Reply # 650938 4-Jul-2012 21:24 Send private message

matt45: 

Yup, just look at where the first roll outs are ... nice flat and modern suburbs. These have been hand picked because they are cheap compared to a  lot of locations. eg. wellington is going to be a extremely difficult and costly build unless they opt for a lot of above ground network.


In napier they picked a suburb called Hospital Hill - it is very much like Mt Victoria in wellington.
It wouldnt have been the easiest to do, but they did it surprisingly fast.
I suspect it was chosen because there is a hospital in the area - though the hospital has been closed down for 10 years.




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  Reply # 650998 4-Jul-2012 23:18 Send private message

maverick:  ... thinking of put a web cam up for people to watch


Last time the guys at Target put up a webcam in their house they found the tradesman 'came' early ;)


Luckily most of the telco guys do some really good work, and if you talk to them they put in that little bit more effort to do a neat job.

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  Reply # 651004 4-Jul-2012 23:33 Send private message

I use to work on a fibre helpdesk. House in a row will have problems but im sure apartments should be fine

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