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Reply # 677531 27-Aug-2012 11:48
Maybe someone needs to design a flash speedtest that downloads from several servers at once.

rhysb

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Reply # 678856 29-Aug-2012 17:24
It looks like Snap have improved their handover in Auckland for UFB. Pings to 2Talk are 2-3ms and about 2ms for Bing.

NonprayingMantis

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Reply # 678861 29-Aug-2012 17:29
rhysb: It looks like Snap have improved their handover in Auckland for UFB. Pings to 2Talk are 2-3ms and about 2ms for Bing. 0ms ping? Did you just break the laws of physics?

rhysb

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Reply # 678862 29-Aug-2012 17:29
sorceror: i've successfuly used the flash speedtest to test speeds up to a gigabit - the reason why the OP is not getting the full 100/50 is most likely due to his router. The router I'm using is a FortiWiFi 60C that is capable of routing 1Gbps, so I don't think that is the issue. During testing with Snap using iperf we were able to get ~70Mbps down. I'll do some more testing now that they've improved their handover.

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Reply # 678869 29-Aug-2012 17:42
NonprayingMantis: 0ms ping? Did you just break the laws of physics? Dunno, why it does that. Pings to Citylink are 2ms Pinging www.citylink.co.nz [202.7.6.20] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 202.7.6.20: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=60 Reply from 202.7.6.20: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=60 Reply from 202.7.6.20: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=60 Reply from 202.7.6.20: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=60 Ping statistics for 202.7.6.20: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 2ms

rhysb

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Reply # 678871 29-Aug-2012 17:48
Ok, here we go with the UTM stuff turned off on the Fortinet.

Lorenceo

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Reply # 678933 29-Aug-2012 20:20
Interesting that you can't get the full 100/50. I wonder where the bottleneck is.

Nebbie

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Reply # 679637 31-Aug-2012 11:13
Lorenceo: Interesting that you can't get the full 100/50. I wonder where the bottleneck is. Good luck at creating a single thread session and expect it to rung at 100mbit.... Start up a well seeded Linux ISO (LOL) you will find with many threads you will be able to obtain closer to 100mbit but still I would never expect 100mbit international transit costs for 100mbit is not worth it unless your paying mega bucks and I mean $1000+ Thats what I'm really worried about offering 100mbit people will run a test like this and complain its not running fast enough, 100mbit is more intended at multiple user Internet usage simultaneously and obtain good speeds. --------------------------------------------------------------- Nebukadnessar ISP: Slingshot (250gb Rollover) - Better Network Speed: 13/1.7 xDSL AnnexM - Cisco 877

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Reply # 679642 31-Aug-2012 11:25
international transit costs for 100mbit is not worth it unless your paying mega bucks and I mean $1000+ Keep adding zeros ;)

Lorenceo

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Reply # 679659 31-Aug-2012 11:51
I'm aware that bandwidth to the rest of the world is expensive, as well as within NZ due to certain... constraints. However, that test result was to the server in Wellington, hosted by Citylink who I'm fairly sure have wide enough pipes within NZ for transferring data beyond 100 megabits/s. :) Also speedtest.net does use multiple threads. I've watched it myself do 95/80. It seems only when you get up beyond 300mb that it can't handle the jandal, but I'd hazard a guess that as there is more demand for metering speeds that great they'll improve it to do so. I'm not complaining about the speed. I'm merely interested in why it isn't up at or close to the full speed, which should be well within its reach from a nationally hosted, peered, capable data source and testing method. :)

quakeguy

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Reply # 682396 6-Sep-2012 15:27
I wonder if speedtest.net uses 1,000,000 bits to a megabit, or (binary) 1,048,576? The difference is 5mbit/sec at 100mbit/sec speeds. Also depending on the exact limit and burst set in the ONT... no doubt stats that I'll be looking at in the near future! Tim.

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Reply # 682399 6-Sep-2012 15:34
For a low latency connection there is no reason why you cannot get 100mbits for a single thread. I can get 100mbps from Penrose to Northcote no sweat at <1ms. This is even using SMB!

quakeguy

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Reply # 682406 6-Sep-2012 15:42
Zeon: For a low latency connection there is no reason why you cannot get 100mbits for a single thread. I can get 100mbps from Penrose to Northcote no sweat at <1ms. This is even using SMB! Yeah, point to point probably no reason. Lorenceo: I'm aware that bandwidth to the rest of the world is expensive, as well as within NZ due to certain... constraints. However, that test result was to the server in Wellington, hosted by Citylink who I'm fairly sure have wide enough pipes within NZ for transferring data beyond 100 megabits/s. :) Also speedtest.net does use multiple threads. I've watched it myself do 95/80. It seems only when you get up beyond 300mb that it can't handle the jandal, but I'd hazard a guess that as there is more demand for metering speeds that great they'll improve it to do so. I'm not complaining about the speed. I'm merely interested in why it isn't up at or close to the full speed, which should be well within its reach from a nationally hosted, peered, capable data source and testing method. :) APE and WIX are not actually connected together for ISPs to transit between, they are standalone exchanges. While companies like Citylink provide commercial services to companies and ISPs, an ISP would need to purchase enough capacity from Auckland to Wellington to allow you to transfer at 100mbps. However I do know that Snap has multiple 10Gbps bearers up and down the country and between Auckland and Wellington, that’s how your data will be getting from Auckland to then to the peering exchange at WIX (it won’t touch APE). Also the Speedtest.net server is probably connected at 1Gbps – who is to say that 10 other people were not doing a test at the same time, or that 100 other people on ADSL2 were not doing the same test! Tim.

Lorenceo

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Reply # 682463 6-Sep-2012 17:20
I'm aware of how the peering points work. My point was that ISPs will be more likely to have enough available bandwidth to a peering point to handle the full 100mb, versus having to route internationally or through an expensive national provider. As to the server itself being overloaded, I doubt that'd be an issue for it. But then again that is me assuming. Who knows what its traffic logs actually look like?

kyhwana2

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Reply # 682555 6-Sep-2012 21:04
Zeon: For a low latency connection there is no reason why you cannot get 100mbits for a single thread. I can get 100mbps from Penrose to Northcote no sweat at <1ms. This is even using SMB! Except of course if you the other end is on a 100mbit or 1gbit link that is being used the same time you do the test!

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