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Topic # 114276 14-Feb-2013 13:43 Send private message

I am contemplating install of UFB as outside the house but wanted to get an idea from users what increase in data usage they have had since the change to fast UFB

with 2 teenagers plus 2 other kids we topped 35gb last month so would be interested in any other familes usage post UFB install

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  Reply # 762276 14-Feb-2013 13:45 Send private message

To be honest I doubt it would change much, unless your internet used to be really slow.... Over time you may find you are using it for other things thansk to the faster upload such as high def video calling or something or perhaps IPTV. If its available i'd recommend to get it installed.





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  Reply # 764176 18-Feb-2013 14:19 Send private message

Good question.
Looking at our user stats, people on capped UFB plans use ~20% more than their cap. People on unlimited plans use an average of more than 100GB.
Hope that helps.
 




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  Reply # 764215 18-Feb-2013 15:20 Send private message

35gb for two teenagers? try 100gb for one teenager :P
talk to them and ask them if they plan to change their usage habits because of the faster speeds.













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  Reply # 765214 18-Feb-2013 15:44 Send private message

Online PS3 streaming games. 

Nvidia had something similar coming up too. 

Just one example of new products that will cause internet usage to increase. 

UFB is coming online at a good time. 



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Reply # 765262 18-Feb-2013 16:38 Send private message

hamish225: 35gb for two teenagers? try 100gb for one teenager :P
talk to them and ask them if they plan to change their usage habits because of the faster speeds.


I like that. Ask a teenager if they "plan" to use more data. Can't see me getting a meaningful response. Laughing

I was more interested if anyone used more downloaded or streaming services such as on Apple TV or any of the local streaming catchup TV services on TVNZ or TV3 etc.
Or maybe were tempted to try IP masking and using a service like Netflix from the USA or maybe Apple TV with a USA itunes account.

I am just interested to know whether the average household uses lots more data and if so what are they doing with the data over faster speeds.

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  Reply # 765281 18-Feb-2013 16:49 Send private message

I would depend on your old plan as stated, one thing for teens could be an increased usage of HD youtube, if your old connection wasn't able to smoothly stream 1080p, they may switch their habits based on this. If the main use of the internet is for YouTube, then look at a provider that offers uncapped usage. This has proved useful in my house, where YouTube usage exceeds what you are using in total thanks to a not very energetic student.

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  Reply # 777795 11-Mar-2013 00:23 Send private message

techleigh:
hamish225: 35gb for two teenagers? try 100gb for one teenager :P
talk to them and ask them if they plan to change their usage habits because of the faster speeds.


I like that. Ask a teenager if they "plan" to use more data. Can't see me getting a meaningful response. Laughing

I was more interested if anyone used more downloaded or streaming services such as on Apple TV or any of the local streaming catchup TV services on TVNZ or TV3 etc.
Or maybe were tempted to try IP masking and using a service like Netflix from the USA or maybe Apple TV with a USA itunes account.

I am just interested to know whether the average household uses lots more data and if so what are they doing with the data over faster speeds.

Andrew


We've just made the switch to UFB with Snap - previously our monthly data was ~250GB/month (Xtra) and I have my first weekend's data from UFB. Total data is in line with previous usage (~10GB/day), but around 90% of this has been zero rated. I'm sure that typically this will be more like 50% zero rated, but overall I'm expecting my 'chargeable' data to go down - mainly due to the fact that Xtra didn't seem to zero rate any of the data that we used, but Snap does.

Snap zero rate iSky, Quickflix, Youtube/Google and Steam data - and I'm pretty sure that some of my Apple downloads were zero rated too as I watched an HD movie streamed off iTunes (should be ~4GB) yet my total chargeable data for the weekend was <2GB. 

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  Reply # 777806 11-Mar-2013 07:34 Send private message

techleigh:
hamish225: 35gb for two teenagers? try 100gb for one teenager :P
talk to them and ask them if they plan to change their usage habits because of the faster speeds.


I like that. Ask a teenager if they "plan" to use more data. Can't see me getting a meaningful response. Laughing

I was more interested if anyone used more downloaded or streaming services such as on Apple TV or any of the local streaming catchup TV services on TVNZ or TV3 etc.
Or maybe were tempted to try IP masking and using a service like Netflix from the USA or maybe Apple TV with a USA itunes account.

I am just interested to know whether the average household uses lots more data and if so what are they doing with the data over faster speeds.

Andrew


I'm not on ufb but I do all that stuff already on adsl. It works just fine so I don't see much value in ufb for me at least.

I don't watch ANY linear tv anymore, it is all streamed.

I get through between 100 and 150GB per month.

Maybe when my kids get older and we will have multiple users on the Internet at he same time I will upgrade to ufb

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  Reply # 777819 11-Mar-2013 08:41 Send private message

Folks forget these are extreme cases. A household with two seniors can probably live with 10GB a month. A household with two parents and two teenagers will probably consume 200GB a month. A professional couple with no kids will probably use around 20GB a month.

Average Internet consumption in the USA is around 25GB a month. An average household with teenagers is the extreme with 150GB a month.

New Zealand average consumption is 8 - 10 GB now. 50GB is a lot, anything over 200GB a month and I'd say either there's a lot of torrenting going on (cheap users who pirate a lot) or streaming via Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, iTunes (those who pay for content).

For a home user I don't see UFB changing habits straight away. People forget that it's a 100 Mbps or 50 Mbps service to the core network but from there things will go slow again if ISP haven't contracted more bandwidth, if the servers are on the other side of the world, etc. There are so many factors that the only way to use 100 Mbps bandwidth is by using multiple connections like torrents really.




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  Reply # 777824 11-Mar-2013 08:51 Send private message

freitasm:
New Zealand average consumption is 8 - 10 GB now. 50GB is a lot, anything over 200GB a month and I'd say either there's a lot of torrenting going on (cheap users who pirate a lot) or streaming via Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, iTunes (those who pay for content). 


The figure of 15Mbps average has been quoted a lot in recent months.



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  Reply # 777834 11-Mar-2013 09:47 Send private message

Still waiting for some choice in the market. Am with Worldexchange at present as they do our phone over voip as well.

Would like to know the upfront costs for connecting to UFB as SNAP seemed to want to charge $360 to courier one off their modems to me.
Is the Fritz!Box a good choice or could I still use the existing Linksys PAP2T (or is this getting to hard to manage now as older)

Have trialled QuickFlix and found there is not much I want to watch (though if SNAP does not charge for this streaming then may consider)
Have yet to find a suitable time to trial the USA based Netflix as need time and not as much sunshine so can excuse the time spent in front of the TV.

Maybe will try and install a Master wired in filter to try and get a better line speed while waiting for Xnet to get a UFB deal together.

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If I had a teenager using 100GB per month I'd take their computer off them and sign them up for sports teams.




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  Reply # 777852 11-Mar-2013 10:45 Send private message

freitasm: Folks forget these are extreme cases. A household with two seniors can probably live with 10GB a month. A household with two parents and two teenagers will probably consume 200GB a month. A professional couple with no kids will probably use around 20GB a month.

Average Internet consumption in the USA is around 25GB a month. An average household with teenagers is the extreme with 150GB a month.

New Zealand average consumption is 8 - 10 GB now. 50GB is a lot, anything over 200GB a month and I'd say either there's a lot of torrenting going on (cheap users who pirate a lot) or streaming via Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, iTunes (those who pay for content).

For a home user I don't see UFB changing habits straight away. People forget that it's a 100 Mbps or 50 Mbps service to the core network but from there things will go slow again if ISP haven't contracted more bandwidth, if the servers are on the other side of the world, etc. There are so many factors that the only way to use 100 Mbps bandwidth is by using multiple connections like torrents really.


I'm prepared to admit I'm an edge case at >200GB/month - but for the record I fall into the second body of users.

The average user certainly uses a lot less data - most of my friends and family have 30GB limits, and rarely come close to reaching them. Of course those of us who use a lot of data tend to be the evangalists for this sort of connection as it lets us do what we want faster and with better quality. I'm certainly prepared to pay the extra $30/month for a connection that's ~16x faster (than ADSL for my location).

I do agree that faster connection leads to increased data usage - if nothing else Youtube (and other streaming video sites) will play in HD rather than Standard Def. Having said this there is a chicken and egg situation with regards to content. Having lived in the US for a year where there are multiple sources for streaming video ( Hulu / Netflix / iTunes / Amazon Video etc.) all of which have huge libraries, it was easy to use with IOS apps etc. and we found ourselves watching those in preference to TV. In NZ currently the available content is much less compelling and so we (well my wife and I ) have swung back to TV to consume a lot of the content we consumed via the internet. Quickflix is a nice copy of the Netflix model, but unfortunately there is a lack of compelling content yet.


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  Reply # 781163 13-Mar-2013 17:08 Send private message

timmmay: If I had a teenager using 100GB per month I'd take their computer off them and sign them up for sports teams.

That's nice an all but what if the teenager is using it for school? (admittedly I blow 100GB on youtube) but the other 100GB part of my plan? used for uploading and such for my graphics. 

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  Reply # 781201 13-Mar-2013 18:35 One person supports this post Send private message

timmmay: If I had a teenager using 100GB per month I'd take their computer off them and sign them up for sports teams.


not everyone likes sport, no point forcing your kid to do something they don't want to do, no matter how much you'd like for your kid to be a sports star they'll do what they like weather you like it or not, all you'd be doing is making their childhood hell.













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