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  Reply # 742607 10-Jan-2013 06:24 Send private message

Torrents and P2P traffic are so 2011.



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  Reply # 742626 10-Jan-2013 09:06 Send private message

Ragnor: Savvy leechers don't just use public torrents these days... in your "heavily limited" category you will sooner or later need to have:
- https from known file locker sites
- ftp/ftps from known seedbox hosts/networks
- ssh from known usenet/newsnet hosts/networks

Might as well put it in the wording now, rather than later.

/imo.


Yes looking to cover that with:

This may include some ('other' might be better) web downloading where appropriate.


But like you say, may be better to define it more. The approved list with help give more clarity.





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  Reply # 748694 22-Jan-2013 11:10 Send private message

list of technologies that will be limited

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=147&topicid=113607




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  Reply # 749336 23-Jan-2013 09:41 Send private message

ScottHoogerbrug: list of technologies that will be limited

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=147&topicid=113607


Hmmm, personally, I'd also look at adding the FTP protocol to the limited list.  My reasoning for this is that some of the users you are looking to dissuade will be using that to access their seed boxes.  This would also affect everyone else who uses FTP, but I would view that as the swings and roundabouts of an unlimited service.



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  Reply # 749345 23-Jan-2013 09:52 Send private message

Blygh:
ScottHoogerbrug: list of technologies that will be limited

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=147&topicid=113607


Hmmm, personally, I'd also look at adding the FTP protocol to the limited list.  My reasoning for this is that some of the users you are looking to dissuade will be using that to access their seed boxes.  This would also affect everyone else who uses FTP, but I would view that as the swings and roundabouts of an unlimited service.


Yes we have considered that but, would like to allow users to be able to use FTP.

We have this line in our fair use policy to cover your scenario.

At Flip's sole discretion excessive users will be notified to reduce their use, then if no suitable change, removed from this pack.


Effectively, if people jump on and try to abuse what we're trying to do (and affect other people's service) we'll kick them off :)




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  Reply # 753720 31-Jan-2013 10:44 Send private message

I know the guns will be coming out but what is wrong with a user pays plan? Ok the first answer will be gauranteed revenue streams but...

As most users are supposedly around the 20gb range and their use probably fluctuates a bit a user pay scheme gives them some idea of cost to use and may change their usage patterns and it also may appeal to those who think 'you pay more if you use over your limit but we keep your money if you use under' is a terrible way of doing business.




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  Reply # 753741 31-Jan-2013 11:06 Send private message

Jas777: I know the guns will be coming out but what is wrong with a user pays plan? Ok the first answer will be gauranteed revenue streams but...

As most users are supposedly around the 20gb range and their use probably fluctuates a bit a user pay scheme gives them some idea of cost to use and may change their usage patterns and it also may appeal to those who think 'you pay more if you use over your limit but we keep your money if you use under' is a terrible way of doing business.



We do this pretty much. If you're not on our 'no data cap pack' and buy data, it doesnt expire for 12 months.

So, if you buy 25GB one month and only use 5GB, 20GB will be there for you next month.




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