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  Reply # 449097 17-Mar-2011 07:33 Send private message

nzmate: With my experience having the phone since October, I can say that its one of the best phones around.

In regards to earlier questions about Telecom and Vodafone 3G-2G, If you are with Telecom and there is no signal on your phone, it will switch to Vodafone for emergency calls ONLY, I have not tested that scenario but I believe its something the two companies have agreed to.


Thanks, that's interesting, I doubt whether many other phones would be able to do that!

I now think I might wait until Nokia has confirmed whether or not there is in fact a hardware fault on some N8s with regard to an excess purple tint on the screen. From what I have read, it seems that a simple software update may not correct this problem? Any information from the Nokia reps would be useful.

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  Reply # 449105 17-Mar-2011 07:49 Send private message

John 2010 Android WiFi access point definitely does infrastructure mode, I can confirm one two devices (HTC & LG).

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  Reply # 449133 17-Mar-2011 09:19 Send private message

Sorry LyonRouge if I was not clear - I did not mean to infer your phones could not do structured mode, just that the N8 probably could not (but that I had never had a need to investigate that) and that most phones could not. That last comment certainly holds true for the whole population of phones and probably so even if one limits that comment to just WiFi capable phones but I have not nor had a need to survey the marketplace on that.

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  Reply # 449335 17-Mar-2011 19:18 Send private message

I'd love to claim the emergency call feature as one of ours, but it is actually a GSM standard: in the case of an emergency call, your SIM is disregarded and the call goes through instantly worldwide. However Nokia does have an extra feature: if there is no network available, Symbian^3 devices will make a VOIP emergency call via any network it can connect to. I'm unsure if there are any regional restrictions here.

Re Ad-Hoc vs Infrastructure, are we talking about as a client or as a hot-spot?

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  Reply # 449383 17-Mar-2011 21:40 Send private message

Hot spot, namely JoikuSpot, who state the limitation as that if the phone.

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  Reply # 449384 17-Mar-2011 21:40 Send private message

nikrolls:
Re Ad-Hoc vs Infrastructure, are we talking about as a client or as a hot-spot?

I am no network person at all (so am prepared to be enlightened Undecided) but as the N8 is a WiFi client and can be a hot-spot I have assumed the reference was to participation on WLAN's as, for example, in the office or home environment read/write sharing files with the other wireless devices on that network - via wireless access points to non wireless devices if infrastructure mode - including servers if present.

It is quite possible my assumption is wrong Embarassed.


EDIT: I got beaten to the punch by milliseconds it seems Smile  

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  Reply # 449391 17-Mar-2011 21:46 Send private message

A touch out of my expertise area here -- I would assume that a lot of the WiFi chips are standard, but who knows. I do know that the difference between Ad-Hoc and Infrastructure only affects a few devices though (Playstation products, possibly Apple iPod/iPhone) and this more due to a limitation or repourposing of the Ad-Hoc mode of their devices (ie, Playstation and PSP creating their own Ad-Hoc system for multiplayer rather than using a standard which can tap into an internet gateway). Obviously this isn't a solution but most devices should work via Ad-Hoc.

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  Reply # 449394 17-Mar-2011 21:53 Send private message

So it is the requirement for the client devices using the phone as a wireless hotspot needing to connect to it in ad-hoc rather than infrastructure mode that is the problem?

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  Reply # 449420 17-Mar-2011 23:03 Send private message

The other way around, I think ... Some client devices don't support connecting to ad-hoc hotspots as internet connections. Most have no issue.

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  Reply # 449423 17-Mar-2011 23:17 Send private message

nikrolls: The other way around, I think ... Some client devices don't support connecting to ad-hoc hotspots as internet connections. Most have no issue.


The other way too Nik in this case. I have been doing some swotting (so the following is not due to any network skills on my part Smile) of Joikuspot which LyonRouge is using and because of a Joikuspot claimed inability of Symbian to do infrastructure connections ad-hoc device to the Joikuspot enabled hotspot phone connection must be used.

As you say, most devices should have no trouble doing that.

I have no need to connect multiple devices to the internet through the phone and have always used them tethered to a PC as a modem but I have a sail boat and USB tethering can be a nuisance at times so resort then to bluetooth. So I might look at using Joikuspot - but given only want to connect one PC the only reason would be if there was a significant speed gain as compared to USB or bluetooth tethering - can anyone give me any ideas on that, subjective or objective?  


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  Reply # 449445 18-Mar-2011 04:42 Send private message

Joiku Spot gives a noticable improvement over Bluetooth.  I don't think it's any faster than USB.  Joiku works well, there's a free version and a paid version, the paid version gives you encryption, in other words you can secure your connection and stop other people accessing your data.

Try the free version to see that it's for you then buy the full version if you like it. I did have a bit of a problem setting up the encryption, mainly because the Joiku manual tells you to use one type of encryption when my USB WiFi dongle wouild only work with the other type of encryption, I don't remember which it was now.




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  Reply # 449449 18-Mar-2011 06:18 Send private message

JoikuSpot is definitely faster and more stable than bluetooth, I use it all the time. Also while it is ad-hoc it still supports multiple devices at a time (I haven't tested the limit but I've had 3-4 at once).

The encryption on the paid version is WEP Personal which takes a 5 character password. It can also do WEP Open which is still encrypted but requires no password. The free one simply does open with no encryption.

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  Reply # 449459 18-Mar-2011 08:07 Send private message

The VPN client I have to use will not pass through an ad-hoc connection but will gl through Infrastructure, it's a lain but that's life. I admit that I have some of the more demanding expectations for mobile devices, and have yet to find the killer phone (currently using 3, each with a particular strength), however, an N8 (or equivalent) with WP7 would be a step closer.

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  Reply # 449482 18-Mar-2011 09:19 Send private message

Thanks all for the feedback.

I will give Joikuspot a try when we are next away (in a few weeks). From a security point of view the free version will probably be fine for that as in most cases when it might be handy we are always miles away from  any "civilisation" and usually also well away from other boats.  

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  Reply # 449509 18-Mar-2011 10:42 Send private message

It's easy enough to boot a rouge client off anyway if you have no security and someone jumps on.

Other features of the paid version include direct access to the internet (no Ovi Store page before being able access the 'net), less 'clicks' to open up the access point, and saving settings like preferred access point, etc.

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