Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.
Buying anything on Amazon? Please use the Geekzone Amazon aff link.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Watch this topic Create new topic
1 | ... | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | ... | 41
1438 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 139

Trusted

  Reply # 715879 12-Nov-2012 14:34 Send private message quote this post

timmmay: It's like amps, sometimes people hear what they want to hear. I've heard more headphones than most people, I have pretty good hearing, I've just never noticed it.

Do you need those special monster cables to hear it? ;-)


I also seem to recall (from a discussion some time ago) that you couldn't hear any difference between mp3 and lossless. You make some strange statements regarding high end audio for someone who reviews this stuff. 




"Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

My thoughts are my own and are in no way representative of my employer.

7207 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 539

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 715882 12-Nov-2012 14:37 Send private message quote this post

geekiegeek:
timmmay: It's like amps, sometimes people hear what they want to hear. I've heard more headphones than most people, I have pretty good hearing, I've just never noticed it.

Do you need those special monster cables to hear it? ;-)


I also seem to recall (from a discussion some time ago) that you couldn't hear any difference between mp3 and lossless. You make some strange statements regarding high end audio for someone who reviews this stuff. 


That's correct, on a good source (ie DAC/amp) I can't tell say a 256kbps mp3 from flac. There have been double blind studies that back this up.

The difference between a poor mp3 and a good mp3 is huge. The difference between an iPod and a good dac/amp is pretty good. Good mp3 vs good flac is very difficult to tell. I'd be surprised if many people can consistently tell in a blind listening test.




Asus eee pad transformer
iPod 2G
Windows 7 PC
Lots and lots of Nikon camera gear



4317 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 330

Trusted

  Reply # 715896 12-Nov-2012 15:10 Send private message quote this post

timmmay:
geekiegeek:
timmmay: It's like amps, sometimes people hear what they want to hear. I've heard more headphones than most people, I have pretty good hearing, I've just never noticed it.

Do you need those special monster cables to hear it? ;-)


I also seem to recall (from a discussion some time ago) that you couldn't hear any difference between mp3 and lossless. You make some strange statements regarding high end audio for someone who reviews this stuff. 


That's correct, on a good source (ie DAC/amp) I can't tell say a 256kbps mp3 from flac. There have been double blind studies that back this up.

The difference between a poor mp3 and a good mp3 is huge. The difference between an iPod and a good dac/amp is pretty good. Good mp3 vs good flac is very difficult to tell. I'd be surprised if many people can consistently tell in a blind listening test.


The quality of mp3 encoding made headway in the last ten years. I suspect most people (myself included amongst that number) are actually unable to detect a difference in blind testing. When you consider the source players and headphones most people are listening from the majority of the time, I doubt that most peoples gear is revealing enough to demonstrate differences even when they are present.

I only listen to FLAC, but thats mostly because I can, and for the reassurance that if anything is there in the recording to be heard at least I know my source material won't be the rate limiting step. 

I can accept though that on certain parts of certain songs with certain encoding, with high enough quality gear, a difference may be possible to be heard between high bitrate mp3 and FLAC. The guys that really get me are the ones who think they can tell 16/48 apart from 24/192. It always fascinates me that they also seem to be the only people who categorically refuse to test their assertions with a blind test (Foobar 2000 has an ABX plugin that will let you do your own blind test, for those who are interested to try it).






Twitter: @nztechfreak
Blogs: AndroidNZ.net


7207 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 539

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 715900 12-Nov-2012 15:19 Send private message quote this post

Maybe one day when I'm super bored I'll try that plugin!




Asus eee pad transformer
iPod 2G
Windows 7 PC
Lots and lots of Nikon camera gear

8257 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 558

Trusted

  Reply # 715955 12-Nov-2012 17:27 Send private message quote this post

Look some people can tell one wine from another, some can see wonders in art that look like a splash ... Sine can appreciate downstage and some right brains can't. It's all in the right brain ... Either you got it or you can't ... Mind you some people are tone deaf

8257 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 558

Trusted

  Reply # 715956 12-Nov-2012 17:28 Send private message quote this post

Try explaining the colour green from red to someone blind and you'll know what I mean

7413 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 947

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 716014 12-Nov-2012 19:24 Send private message quote this post

Well I have them, but I haven't tried them yet as they smell ... Funky! Anyone know a good method for cleaning them or de-oderizing them? Other than that they are spotless and in perfect condition as best I can tell.



4317 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 330

Trusted

  Reply # 716020 12-Nov-2012 19:32 Send private message quote this post

What kind of material are the pads?




Twitter: @nztechfreak
Blogs: AndroidNZ.net


7413 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 947

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 716033 12-Nov-2012 19:42 Send private message quote this post

I think they are called velour. I am extremely anxious to ensure I don't change the sound signature permanently or cause any damage to them. I'd order new pads, but they are about $120. I thought about just setting them up near a fan and seeing if "airing" them out will help, but as my wife pointed out, that won't get rid of sweat etc.

7413 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 947

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 716070 12-Nov-2012 20:56 Send private message quote this post

Warm Soapy Water according to the Manual.

Next on my list of purchases will be :

http://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/Razer-Tiamat-71-Gaming-Headset/18624166/

I think it will take some time to justify the need :)



I have tried the HD650's for the first time, and I think I'll need an AMP. They sound excellent, but I am missing the level of detail present on my audition, though I'll be unhappy if I need to spend $1500 to get that same sound. 



Well after an hour of listening I am really starting to dig these HP's.

209 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 3


  Reply # 716144 13-Nov-2012 07:25 Send private message quote this post

cauld:
geekiegeek: Sennheiser fanboy here. Actually just paid a visit to their concept store in Kuala Lumper last week. 



Sennheiser here (mainly) too.

HD25 MkI's - DJ Headphone
HD465 - My primary listening to music while working at home phones. Too big to travel well

For exercise I have recently picked up a pair of Polk Audio Ultrafit 3000's
http://www.polkaudio.com/products/ultrafit3000
Audio snobbery and profuse sweatiness don't typically mix. These are the best I've found yet. 4 months in and not rooted yet so not bad for durability. Audio is the best I've had from sports phones (usually go through 1-2 pairs a year)


Can I ask where you got your Polk phones from?
I'm looking at the Ultrafit 2000 but can't see em on pricespy



4317 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 330

Trusted

  Reply # 716146 13-Nov-2012 07:33 Send private message quote this post

networkn: Warm Soapy Water according to the Manual.

Next on my list of purchases will be :

http://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/Razer-Tiamat-71-Gaming-Headset/18624166/

I think it will take some time to justify the need :)



I have tried the HD650's for the first time, and I think I'll need an AMP. They sound excellent, but I am missing the level of detail present on my audition, though I'll be unhappy if I need to spend $1500 to get that same sound. 



Well after an hour of listening I am really starting to dig these HP's.


You won't need to spend that much, I have a selection of amps you can try, none of which cost that much.




Twitter: @nztechfreak
Blogs: AndroidNZ.net


90 posts

Master Geek


  Reply # 716147 13-Nov-2012 07:36 Send private message quote this post

networkn: Warm Soapy Water according to the Manual.

Next on my list of purchases will be :

http://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/Razer-Tiamat-71-Gaming-Headset/18624166/

I think it will take some time to justify the need :)



I have tried the HD650's for the first time, and I think I'll need an AMP. They sound excellent, but I am missing the level of detail present on my audition, though I'll be unhappy if I need to spend $1500 to get that same sound. 



Well after an hour of listening I am really starting to dig these HP's.


You are welcome to try my O2 amp to see if this affordable amp satisfies you.



4317 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 330

Trusted

  Reply # 716395 13-Nov-2012 14:02 Send private message quote this post

Bah, so annoying!

At lunchtime I dashed away from work to collection my HE-6 from the airport, then dashed home to get the RSA Intruder and 6.5mm-->3.5mm adapter and USB OTG adapter. Arrive to work with 15 minutes left in order to listen to a few tracks from the HE-6, discover I left the 6.5mm-->3.5mm adapter at home. Fracking annoying. Will have to wait until this evening.

I hope my amps have enough power to drive the HE-6... Getting some balanced adapters to connect to the balanced outputs of the Xonar and the Intruder, hopefully if I have issues with driving it from my amps on a single-ended connection that will help (since it doubles power output to each channel from a fully balanced amp).




Twitter: @nztechfreak
Blogs: AndroidNZ.net


8257 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 558

Trusted

  Reply # 716416 13-Nov-2012 14:25 Send private message quote this post

Freak!

1 | ... | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | ... | 41
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Watch this topic Create new topic




Twitter »
Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





Trending now »

Hot discussions in our forums right now:

Netflix officialy launching in NZ in March
Created by jarj, last reply by tdgeek on 21-Nov-2014 19:08 (97 replies)
Pages... 5 6 7


Gull Employment Dispute.
Created by networkn, last reply by richms on 23-Nov-2014 23:05 (71 replies)
Pages... 3 4 5


Which one is right for me? M8, Z3, S5 or other?
Created by makiomoto, last reply by makiomoto on 20-Nov-2014 13:52 (40 replies)
Pages... 2 3


Free 1gb data with $19 combo until end of Jan 2015 (1.5gb total)
Created by eXDee, last reply by Shoes2468 on 23-Nov-2014 23:01 (16 replies)
Pages... 2


Slingshot line speed
Created by Frankiej45, last reply by Frankiej45 on 20-Nov-2014 14:38 (14 replies)

Little Wins labour Leadership
Created by MikeAqua, last reply by Aredwood on 21-Nov-2014 18:47 (53 replies)
Pages... 2 3 4


Orcon: Why did you cancel my email account without telling me??
Created by old3eyes, last reply by old3eyes on 21-Nov-2014 17:03 (13 replies)

My connection is too fast
Created by ckc, last reply by Geektastic on 20-Nov-2014 11:30 (25 replies)
Pages... 2



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.