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Topic # 99547 21-Mar-2012 19:40 Send private message

I'm looking to move to PPC compression fittings and just wondering what peoples experiences with the various common tools have been?

Jaycar do two that a fairly typical:
A fancy one 
http://jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=TH1801&keywords=compression+tool&form=KEYWORD

and a pretty common standard one 
http://jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=TH1803&keywords=compression+tool&form=KEYWORD 

Trademe does variations like:http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/tvs/cables-aerials/auction-456982591.htm
  
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  Reply # 598354 21-Mar-2012 19:52 Send private message

Just make sure whatever you buy does all the various length connectors, or at least those that you plan to use. There are a lot around that will only handle stock standard F connectors, and not longer ones like Belling Lee.


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  Reply # 598355 21-Mar-2012 19:53 Send private message

Jaxson: I'm looking to move to PPC compression fittings and just wondering what peoples experiences with the various common tools have been?

Jaycar do two that a fairly typical:
A fancy one 
http://jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=TH1801&keywords=compression+tool&form=KEYWORD

and a pretty common standard one 
http://jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=TH1803&keywords=compression+tool&form=KEYWORD 

Trademe does variations like:http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/tvs/cables-aerials/auction-456982591.htm
  
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I  bought this recently...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/tvs/cables-aerials/auction-458240611.htm


I'm not sure how to judge the quality of the crimping -- at least the connector was tightly fitted to the cable and the freeview signal gets through perfectly. 

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  Reply # 598391 21-Mar-2012 21:22 Send private message

I've got one of these:
http://www.sigtech.co.nz/webapps/p/72000/105425/315458
Does the business.

FYI: I bought an LNB and bracket from that TradeMe member (the one you cite, Jaxson) and it was a no-nonsense, all-good experience.  Very friendly and helpful.

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  Reply # 598392 21-Mar-2012 21:25 Send private message

I have one similar to the second jaycar link. Mine has 3 different inserts for different sized crimp connectors but I've only ever used it for RG6. I got it from my local electrical supply store. Don't know how much I paid, but it wasn't $71 like your first link!


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  Reply # 598418 21-Mar-2012 22:13 Send private message

I use one similar to this...


Doesn't do the crimps with the plastic thing in the bottom. Crimps in like a cone right on to the shielding. Never had one problem with them. Went around my parents house taking out the screw on crimps and replaced with my ones and the difference in picture quality was quite noticeable. picture...




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  Reply # 598453 22-Mar-2012 02:44 Send private message

Thanks guys, I'll have a hunt around tomorrow.

Quite important, but not always obvious from just looking, to get the compression vs linear crimp. I've come from Hex crimp and want to move to the compression fitting instead, to lock to the cable as mentioned above.

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  Reply # 598460 22-Mar-2012 05:50 Send private message

chevrolux: I use one similar to this...


Doesn't do the crimps with the plastic thing in the bottom. Crimps in like a cone right on to the shielding. Never had one problem with them. Went around my parents house taking out the screw on crimps and replaced with my ones and the difference in picture quality was quite noticeable. picture...



The ones with plastic are compression connectors. They aren't designed to work in a radial crimp tool or with crimp connectors.






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  Reply # 598607 22-Mar-2012 11:54 Send private message

Yeah those connectors (in Chevrolux's photos) look like Radial Crimp fittings rather than compression fittings.

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  Reply # 598610 22-Mar-2012 12:06 Send private message

Hi, I use the Signet one including there current Sky branded PPC connectors


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  Reply # 598613 22-Mar-2012 12:13 Send private message

For a cheap source of compression connectors, I brought some of these and are quite happy with them.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/tvs/cables-aerials/auction-458686156.htm

She has dual and quad shield connectors and were the cheapest I saw at the time.

I just use a cheap compression tool I brought from DSE back when they were still useful...



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  Reply # 598619 22-Mar-2012 12:20 Send private message

cyril7: Hi, I use the Signet one including there current Sky branded PPC connectors


Cyril



One of these bad boys?:
http://www.sigtech.co.nz/webapps/site/72000/105425/shopping/shopping-plus-columns.html?find_keywords=compression&page_start=21


Connector wise I was thinking these actually:
http://0101.nccdn.net/1_5/099/268/08b/3000-sky-nz-pdf-2.3.15.2011.pdf

(Fits Dual and Quad shield etc)

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  Reply # 598624 22-Mar-2012 12:31 Send private message

Oh right. So the connectors I have aren't called compression? I didn't know that lol. So does that little plastic bit at the bottom actually lock the cable in?
The ones I use are pretty much impossible to pull off so what is the advantage of the 'compression' fittings?

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  Reply # 598630 22-Mar-2012 12:48 Send private message

Hi, the unit I use is the STTH518E2 in the signet link, the connectors they now sell look like the orange ones in you other link (probably are) and fit duo bond through quad, being a tapped linear crimp they will fit a wide range.

Sam the linear crimps we are discussing are the best there is and have superiour water resistance, cable clamping and most importantly return loss compared to the radial ones that Sky used to demand and that you use.

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  Reply # 598634 22-Mar-2012 12:56 Send private message

Thanks Cyril,

The tool you refer to is very similar to the Jaycar cheapest option so I might give that a go.  I recall some had issues with this 'bulging' to one side, but that may not be common, and obviously could have been linked to their individual tool, connectors or technique etc.

Yes as I understand it, SKY now prefer/demand linear compression fittings now?  Though they may still allow some radial crimp fittings, I'd have to ask specifically.

The other tool I had been considering was Leema's 7124 unit, but this was likely to be in the $80 - $100 range.
http://0101.nccdn.net/1_5/356/207/21e/7124.jpg

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  Reply # 598636 22-Mar-2012 13:02 Send private message

Hi, yes you must put your thumb on the connector as you close the tool, once you remember to do that you never have a bulging issue again. And before you ask, no your thumb will not get stuck the tool is designed for you to put your thumb there.

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