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  Reply # 757535 8-Feb-2013 21:00 Send private message

Not that you really get a choice. You buy the hardware and get the software platform that comes with it. You cannot put Win8 on RT devices and you cannot put RT on Win8 devices. I see that Flash installed on RT will only run on sites approved by Microsoft.

RT comes with a full version home/student edition of Office 2013 installed. H/s does not include Outlook. If you were going to buy h/s for only one device then the h/s saving might sway it towards RT.

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  Reply # 757617 9-Feb-2013 09:56 Send private message

gnfb1234:
billgates: Acer W510 is $789 at Noel Leeming and Bond n Bond. On top of that there seems to be a further $100 redemption offer from Acer till 17th Feb. You can prob try get a better cash deal from either of the retailers on top of that. You can use the $100 redemption offer credit to buy the acer docking keyboard/battery combo.

http://www.noelleeming.co.nz/shop/computers/windows-8-tablets/acer-w510-10-1-tablet/prod119229.html



The coupon is for a gift voucher for some online stuff cant use for cash

Seeing if I can get a decent price on the keyboard now


Apparently you can just use the e-voucher for e-books and music at this stage;

http://ec3.acer.com.au/AcerCashBack/ACA/Projects/CashBack/Loading?entity=0041&tablet=true

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  Reply # 759239 10-Feb-2013 23:10 Send private message

RT can only run apps and drivers compiled for ARM - which is likely to cause you problems if you want to do anything more complex than use the browser or run the limited selection of ARM apps from the store.

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  Reply # 759276 11-Feb-2013 06:56 Send private message

robocat: RT can only run apps and drivers compiled for ARM - which is likely to cause you problems if you want to do anything more complex than use the browser or run the limited selection of ARM apps from the store.


or run the built in version of office 2013

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  Reply # 759283 11-Feb-2013 07:20 Send private message

Wade:
robocat: RT can only run apps and drivers compiled for ARM - which is likely to cause you problems if you want to do anything more complex than use the browser or run the limited selection of ARM apps from the store.


or run the built in version of office 2013


If one needs Office it is often for editing, and a laptop makes more sense.

I haven't tried office on our tablet, but I have read it is hardly designed for touch usage, and I can't imagine using it without a keyboard - isn't Office a desktop app? (I find using the touch keyboard with desktop apps is frustrating).

Also often users of Office want to print... good luck installing your printer driver on RT.

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  Reply # 759286 11-Feb-2013 07:25 Send private message

robocat:
Wade:
robocat: RT can only run apps and drivers compiled for ARM - which is likely to cause you problems if you want to do anything more complex than use the browser or run the limited selection of ARM apps from the store.


or run the built in version of office 2013


If one needs Office it is often for editing, and a laptop makes more sense.

I haven't tried office on our tablet, but I have read it is hardly designed for touch usage, and I can't imagine using it without a keyboard - isn't Office a desktop app? (I find using the touch keyboard with desktop apps is frustrating).

Also often users of Office want to print... good luck installing your printer driver on RT.


On Windows RT, the Office 2013 installation runs inside the desktop.  Yes it has a touch mode, that optimises its UI for pen/finger input.  Yes personally a lot of the time I'm using Office 2013 it is for editing and I'd like to use a mouse/keyboard, at least with Windows I can just plug those things in and they work (or I fold back my Surface RT Touch Cover or Type Cover keyboard)

Printing is actually very good on Windows RT, there is excellent inbox support and there are also a bunch of vendors that make and are making available ARM drivers for their printers

But even out of the box, definitely a lot better integration there than I have ever seen on an iPad or Android tablet

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  Reply # 759677 11-Feb-2013 18:05 Send private message

Windows RT includes a class driver that enables printing directly to thousands of different printer models. See www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/winrt/CompatCenter/Home for more details. Note that some devices may require firmware updates to support this capability.

Windows RT will also support printing to network printers shared from a Windows 8 or Windows Server 2012 print server through enhancements to the printer driver architecture implemented in those releases. See http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/windows/hardware/Hh706306(v=vs.85).aspx for more information about this new printer driver architecture (referred to as “v4 printer drivers”).



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  Reply # 762000 13-Feb-2013 23:25 Send private message

Ok so after a significant amount of debate I have gone the windows 8 hp envy x2 route................ and already I am having doubts LOL
I started to install all the apps i had on my samsung tablet all was going well till i got to a sip phone and there seems very few iv'v ended up using the xlite thing which is way to small buttons for touch screen

othere than that we will see how we go
thanks for all the comments and suggestions
G

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  Reply # 762034 14-Feb-2013 07:20 Send private message

That's where the Samsung win8 tablet shines, when you have to use an x86 app with fiddly small buttons moments you have the s pen :P



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  Reply # 762104 14-Feb-2013 10:16 Send private message

good point it will be intresting if in 6 months time i'm back with android!!

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