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Topic # 113898 31-Jan-2013 12:57 Send private message

Prior to today, rebooting my modem would result in a new IP being allocated. 

However, now I cannot get my ip to change regardless of rebooting. 

So, how do I change my internet IP address now? 





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  Reply # 753824 31-Jan-2013 13:00 Send private message

Change ISP...

Telecom have been doing this for a while, as do quite a number of ISPs. The majority of people regard this as a good thing - why do you want to change IP address?

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  Reply # 753829 31-Jan-2013 13:01 Send private message

Why do you need a new IP address?




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  Reply # 753855 31-Jan-2013 13:23 Send private message

You will probably have been migrated off the old stack onto the new stack and now have a "stick ip".

If you really need it changed (why?) then it can be done via the helpdesk, but you would need a pretty good argument as to why you need your IP address changed for it to be done.




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  Reply # 753858 31-Jan-2013 13:30 Send private message

johnr: Why do you need a new IP address?


Just guessing here, but used for dodging the skynet police?

TCL customers were prime targets for 3 strikes, as they had a static IP address, and it was easier to see the recurring offending.

Personally I see the same address being re-allocated after a restart as a great thing.

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  Reply # 753861 31-Jan-2013 13:32 Send private message

Static or Dynamic IP Addresses makes 0% difference with copyright law.



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  Reply # 753865 31-Jan-2013 13:37 Send private message

johnr: Why do you need a new IP address?


There are several reasons. 

First is security, I like that my machine changes IP occasionally. Once I noticed a lot of connections coming into my system and was able to change ip to get away from this.  

Another one is some download websites limit you by your IP address.  Changing is a quick way around this restriction. 

I wonder why they changed this? I'd have thought with ip addresses becoming scarce that telecom would not want to tie them all up on static allocations.  

However, from the above comments I guess it is not possible anymore (didn't telecom make you pay for static IP's in the past?). 



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  Reply # 753869 31-Jan-2013 13:40 Send private message

"I wonder why they changed this? I'd have thought with ip addresses becoming scarce that telecom would not want to tie them all up on static allocations. "

The percentage of people who have broadband and who are actually connected is VERY high so there is really no waste of IP Addresses at all.



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  Reply # 753870 31-Jan-2013 13:41 Send private message

spearsniper:
johnr: Why do you need a new IP address?


Just guessing here, but used for dodging the skynet police?

TCL customers were prime targets for 3 strikes, as they had a static IP address, and it was easier to see the recurring offending.

Personally I see the same address being re-allocated after a restart as a great thing.


I'm not sure how changing IP would help you dodge skynet police?  I would imagine telecom store the IP timestamp so they can link it to an account.

UNLESS...telecom systems are unable to link the IP with a customer account at a given point in time,  in which case a dirty workaround is to allocate static IP's.  

Anyway, I have my answer now. 








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  Reply # 753873 31-Jan-2013 13:43 Send private message

plambrechtsen: You will probably have been migrated off the old stack onto the new stack and now have a "stick ip".

If you really need it changed (why?) then it can be done via the helpdesk, but you would need a pretty good argument as to why you need your IP address changed for it to be done.


Thanks for the answer -- this is not really a suitable solution as I like to reboot my modem once a day to avoid becoming a sitting target for hackers. Maybe paranoid but I'd been hacked before. 

I only just noticed the IP was not updating . 

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  Reply # 753875 31-Jan-2013 13:44 Send private message

surfisup1000:
spearsniper:
johnr: Why do you need a new IP address?


Just guessing here, but used for dodging the skynet police?

TCL customers were prime targets for 3 strikes, as they had a static IP address, and it was easier to see the recurring offending.

Personally I see the same address being re-allocated after a restart as a great thing.


I'm not sure how changing IP would help you dodge skynet police?  I would imagine telecom store the IP timestamp so they can link it to an account.

UNLESS...telecom systems are unable to link the IP with a customer account at a given point in time,  in which case a dirty workaround is to allocate static IP's.  

Anyway, I have my answer now. 


The answer has nothing to do with the copyright infringement requirements.

It has to do with basic operational requirements and efficient ways of doing things.

Cheers - N


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  Reply # 753879 31-Jan-2013 13:50 Send private message

I for one LIKE having a sticky IP address. It makes the use of unblock-us.com a lot easier as I only have to re-confirm my ip address once in a blue moon.

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  Reply # 753881 31-Jan-2013 13:54 Send private message

surfisup1000:  I like to reboot my modem once a day to avoid becoming a sitting target for hackers. Maybe paranoid but I'd been hacked before. 


How does this stop hacking?



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  Reply # 753891 31-Jan-2013 14:11 Send private message

RunningMan:
surfisup1000:  I like to reboot my modem once a day to avoid becoming a sitting target for hackers. Maybe paranoid but I'd been hacked before. 


How does this stop hacking?


Maybe not a lot, but , once my machine was hacked and I changed my ip address to get rid of the connection attempts. 

Anyway no big deal, I was curious as to why this started happening now. 

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  Reply # 753912 31-Jan-2013 14:32 Send private message

Thinking you'll avoid hackers by changing an IP address is flawed logic.

If you were hacked you obviously had an insecurely configured system. Changing IP addresses is a bit like deciding to lock your front door because it's how the burglers got in but still leaving the back door unlocked.

With bots out there on the net that are capable of scanning every IP address that Telecom has within a very short period of time you should be more concerned about securing your system because an IP change won't do anything at all for your security.

Sticky IP's can make network management a lot better, especially for CDN's and local peering.

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  Reply # 753916 31-Jan-2013 14:35 Send private message

surfisup1000:
RunningMan:
surfisup1000:  I like to reboot my modem once a day to avoid becoming a sitting target for hackers. Maybe paranoid but I'd been hacked before. 


How does this stop hacking?


Maybe not a lot, but , once my machine was hacked and I changed my ip address to get rid of the connection attempts. 

Anyway no big deal, I was curious as to why this started happening now. 



I've had the same static IP for the last couple years and can't say i've been hacked before.

 I would think an up to date Anti-Virus / Firewall + staying off dodgy sites (Warez / Torrents etc) would do you ALOT better than just changing your ip everyday.

I was under the impression Telecom has had "Stick Ip's" for a while and this wasn't a new thing?

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