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  Reply # 37749 5-Jun-2006 20:48 Send private message

Jama: That damn big business ha Juha? I hear a large media monopoly might be picking up a few publications you write for....

'Fairfax putting the Fair in publishing' - yeah right.


I didn't say "damn big business"... that was more Felix's train of thought, if you look at what he posted.

For those who haven't seen it, Jama is referring to this. I don't know anything else apart from what's in that story...






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  Reply # 37750 5-Jun-2006 20:52 Send private message

juha:If OECD was as you say interested in furthering the interest of big business, surely it would champion Telecom's cause? Telecom is big business after all.


LOL. Telecom? Big Business? Hahahahaha Telecom doesnt register on the OECD scale of big business




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  Reply # 37751 5-Jun-2006 21:00 Send private message

bradstewart: LOL. Telecom? Big Business? Hahahahaha Telecom doesnt register on the OECD scale of big business


Telecom is the biggest listed business in NZ, and it's big internationally as well. Not as big as the biggest, but not a piddly little garage business either.

That's not really the point though, which is that the OECD is not a neo-con think tank. Again, please don't confuse the issue.




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  Reply # 37753 5-Jun-2006 21:05 Send private message

juha: None of your arguments warrants Telecom retaining a monopoly and charging the earth for it, I'm afraid.


'Damn big business'




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  Reply # 37754 5-Jun-2006 21:06 Send private message

Juha,

I can see what you mean... I just don't place much value on giving someone with preventable HIV in Africa an internet connection to improve their standard of living... may people who use internet seem to think it is a tool that will save the world! Why? There are so many other tools that could improve the world that aren't used effectively, thanks in a large part to the countries I sweepingly generalise over all the time...

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Fairfax and the possible closure of some locally produced magazines, I think that would be sad. Though I haven't bother with any of the magazines mentioned for a long time it's always sad when people lose their jobs.

I can't however understand why anyone would keep PC World running... references to toilet paper would be too obvious... has anyone read it lately? I gave up when it appeared the editorial stance was inflicted somehow with syphilis...

I digress. In essence Juha, I'm just saying I don't trust big business, the bigger, the less trust worthy, and the closer to government... not just foreign government, but our very own too (Muldoon / CIA, Labour / Monsanto)

It's just my prerogative to question lists provided by any organisation, especially when the lists can be used for any sort of influence (whether that's a fickle population, a lazy media, or a large corporation)

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  Reply # 37755 5-Jun-2006 21:08 Send private message

Jama:
juha: None of your arguments warrants Telecom retaining a monopoly and charging the earth for it, I'm afraid.




'Damn big business'


Right, I didn't say anything about "damn big business".






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and I would like to state, I do not think the OECD is a neo-con, just heavily influenced by them




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  Reply # 37757 5-Jun-2006 21:20 Send private message

Felix: 

I can see what you mean... I just don't place much value on giving someone with preventable HIV in Africa an internet connection to improve their standard of living... may people who use internet seem to think it is a tool that will save the world! Why? There are so many other tools that could improve the world that aren't used effectively, thanks in a large part to the countries I sweepingly generalise over all the time...


The Internet isn't going to save the world - can't think of any single thing that will in fact, unless you count common sense :)


I still like to think that a populace with the option to be informed is better than one that doesn't have that choice. And making the choice for the populace not to have access to the information, no matter how it is used, well, should that lie with a monopoly provider?


As for the reference to Fairfax and the possible closure of some locally produced magazines, I think that would be sad. Though I haven't bother with any of the magazines mentioned for a long time it's always sad when people lose their jobs.

I can't however understand why anyone would keep PC World running... references to toilet paper would be too obvious... has anyone read it lately? I gave up when it appeared the editorial stance was inflicted somehow with syphilis...


I hope you've told PC World editorial about this. Don't really know what you mean by the editorial stance, but you can always email me privately if you want me to forward any comments - anonymously is fine. Please remember though: I don't have the slightest influence there.


I digress. In essence Juha, I'm just saying I don't trust big business, the bigger, the less trust worthy, and the closer to government... not just foreign government, but our very own too (Muldoon / CIA, Labour / Monsanto)

It's just my prerogative to question lists provided by any organisation, especially when the lists can be used for any sort of influence (whether that's a fickle population, a lazy media, or a large corporation)

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I don't disagree with you at all on that. Always doubt and question :)




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