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Topic # 83948 24-May-2011 11:04 Send private message

As per TCNZ, it covers 70% of the rollout.

http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=3775&page=1&pagesize=10

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  Reply # 473447 24-May-2011 13:53 Send private message

+1 for using the correct name 'Chorus', unlike the mis-informed media who still believe Telecom won the contract. :)

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  Reply # 473450 24-May-2011 14:02 Send private message

Isn't Chorus owned by Telecom? ;-)




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  Reply # 473459 24-May-2011 14:09 Send private message

hairy1: Isn't Chorus owned by Telecom? ;-)


Has to structurally seperatre into two companies 

http://www.med.govt.nz/upload/Seperation_Q&A.pdf 

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  Reply # 473460 24-May-2011 14:11 Send private message

So are TelstraClear still going to cry about it?




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  Reply # 473471 24-May-2011 14:20 Send private message

Betcha my local electorate National MP is not in the office answering the telephone today.

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  Reply # 473472 24-May-2011 14:21 Send private message

hairy1: Isn't Chorus owned by Telecom? ;-)



Subtle but crucial different, they are owned by the Telecom Group :)

Reading Stuff comments most people are unhappy with Telecom Retail, not the company who won the UFB contract.

Edit: spelling mistake

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  Reply # 473474 24-May-2011 14:24

scorpiworld: +1 for using the correct name 'Chorus', unlike the mis-informed media who still believe Telecom won the contract. :)


 

Strictly speaking, it was telecom that won, as chorus is currently still a division of it, and it is owned by telecom on the sharemarket. However they will eventually become two seperate companies. This decision was always going to happen, otherwise telecom would have probably setup a competing network, and NZ can't afford two different networks. Also telecom has a lot of fibre already installed, so why setup duplication of networks.

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  Reply # 473492 24-May-2011 15:07 Send private message

Love or hate Telecom, I guess that they were always the smartest choice in regards to constructing the majority of the UFB. As previously stated, had they not won, they most likely would've built their own, competing network. And the fact that they have a whole heap of the infrastructure already in place, whoever did get the UFB contract would have already been behind the eight ball.

I think it's in their best interests to do a decent job of it, lest they repeat mistakes of the past and become permanently tainted as simply useless.

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  Reply # 473514 24-May-2011 16:31 Send private message

Mushdaba: Love or hate Telecom, I guess that they were always the smartest choice in regards to constructing the majority of the UFB. As previously stated, had they not won, they most likely would've built their own, competing network. And the fact that they have a whole heap of the infrastructure already in place, whoever did get the UFB contract would have already been behind the eight ball.

I think it's in their best interests to do a decent job of it, lest they repeat mistakes of the past and become permanently tainted as simply useless.



Agree completely, Telecom as brand has a very bad reputation (deserved or undeserved) but the recent Fibre to the cabinet programme by Chorus has proved very successful and lots of people are enjoying 10+Mb speeds (Not me unfortunately), but it gives me hope this UFB rollout will follow the same way. Chorus after all have a lot of fibre laid in the ground already.

What the various retail providers will offer in terms of packages and most importantly data cap limits (if any) is the next interesting piece of news. I think a model where you pay more for more speed (CIR) would work better, as any type of data cap can be chewed through using a 100Mb pipe.

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  Reply # 473522 24-May-2011 16:43 Send private message

stevenz: So are TelstraClear still going to cry about it?



Wait for the full page adds in tomorrows papers..




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  Reply # 473523 24-May-2011 16:45 Send private message

Would any ISP insiders here (Snap, WXC...) be able to give a rough retail ballpark we as consumers could expect to pay based on the wholesale pricing? Not looking for any firm figures but based on past history.....




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  Reply # 473559 24-May-2011 18:04 Send private message

There is some current UFB pricing around with us and xfnet.

We start at $79 for 10mbit/10gb with a phone line. Xfnet start at $79 for 10gb with a phone line and unknown speed (last time they said speed on their site it was 5mbit, could be 10mbit now, they dont say)

You'll see new plans comes out over the coming months as the monthly charge from the LFC is now locked down nationwide




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  Reply # 473571 24-May-2011 18:47 Send private message

I can't wait to see what happens with this.

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  Reply # 473578 24-May-2011 18:54 Send private message

hairy1: Would any ISP insiders here (Snap, WXC...) be able to give a rough retail ballpark we as consumers could expect to pay based on the wholesale pricing? Not looking for any firm figures but based on past history.....

Did you read the page linked to in the OP? Quote:

"Pricing

The entry level wholesale price per month for a 30mbps plan will be $37.50 and a 100mbps plan will be $55. RSPs will not be charged connection fees for standard residential connections.

The wholesale rates mean that barriers to upgrade to a fibre connection have largely been removed as soon as it is available in an area. As such, we expect RSPs will seek to convert their customers to fibre as quickly as possible."

End quote. From what I read there, it sounds to me like plans will be speed based, another quote: "Plan pricing for end users will be decided by the RSPs".

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  Reply # 473579 24-May-2011 18:56 Send private message

Yes. This is a wholesale rate. It doesn't include any data or ISP margin.




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