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  Reply # 473583 24-May-2011 19:09 Send private message

codyc1515:
hairy1: Would any ISP insiders here (Snap, WXC...) be able to give a rough retail ballpark we as consumers could expect to pay based on the wholesale pricing? Not looking for any firm figures but based on past history.....

Did you read the page linked to in the OP? Quote:

"Pricing

The entry level wholesale price per month for a 30mbps plan will be $37.50 and a 100mbps plan will be $55. RSPs will not be charged connection fees for standard residential connections.

The wholesale rates mean that barriers to upgrade to a fibre connection have largely been removed as soon as it is available in an area. As such, we expect RSPs will seek to convert their customers to fibre as quickly as possible."

End quote. From what I read there, it sounds to me like plans will be speed based, another quote: "Plan pricing for end users will be decided by the RSPs".


Of course it's speed based, the LFC aren't doing GB cap's wholesale to RSP's.

You're basically going to end up with main plans, 30/10mbit and 100/50mbit, RSP's will compete based on the normal range of things, cap's/zero-rating/connection fees/contract terms and contention ratios.

The difference is with the UFB the pipe between the end user and the RSP is dimensioned ALOT higher. If you are reading the documents you'll note that on PON where they can push 2.4gbit per line from the OLT the split is set at 24:1 which means from your house to the LFC's core is unconstrained. From there it's upto the RSP to choose the size of their NNI which is the handover point. On top of this the RSP has more cash to play around with since the wholesale cost is below current costs for a Telecom Wholesale naked dsl connection. Most of which will be chewed up in additional backhauling and international transit to support the higher speed.

It's going to be a fun time in the ISP space as everyone rush's to get the content people want closer to their NNI's to reduce costs and increase speeds to the end user 




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  Reply # 473633 24-May-2011 20:32 Send private message

Is there confirmation of which areas which will get the fibre service?

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  Reply # 473637 24-May-2011 20:38 Send private message





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  Reply # 473640 24-May-2011 20:42 Send private message

can't get the crown fibre website to open in IE9 or firefox?

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  Reply # 473648 24-May-2011 20:46 Send private message

marmel: can't get the crown fibre website to open in IE9 or firefox?


I read some people couldnt get on all day, I am on Telecom, XP & IE8. All working ok.

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  Reply # 473650 24-May-2011 20:48 Send private message

I'm with VF, maybe someone spat the dummy after the announcement :-)

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  Reply # 473651 24-May-2011 20:48 Send private message

marmel: can't get the crown fibre website to open in IE9 or firefox?

It's been offline all day for me.  Shortly after this morning's announcement I tried to access it, but haven't had any luck all day.





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  Reply # 473654 24-May-2011 20:52 Send private message

You would think given the announcement the website would be the one thing they would make sure thats working?

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  Reply # 473656 24-May-2011 20:56 Send private message

Judging by twitter there was a DNS problem




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  Reply # 473688 24-May-2011 22:07 Send private message

I would hazard a guess that TCL will somewhat annoyed that Chorus is doing the build in Wellington, as their own cable network covers something like 75% of the city and the Hutt Valley etc.

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  Reply # 473690 24-May-2011 22:10 Send private message

Yeah given the size of the country ans sparse population you would think the telcos/government would all play together to get this fibre sorted.

Seems crazy to have two fibre networks installed in some areas. Competition though I suppose?

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  Reply # 473716 24-May-2011 22:25 Send private message

I heard on the news that households will get UFB by at least 2019, so should we go wait out on the porch? 

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  Reply # 473720 24-May-2011 22:28 Send private message

I assume that a small south island town like Gore will be at the bottom of the list as well, if on the list at all.

We've only just had adsl2 switched on, still one benefit we do have is there never seems to be any problems getting a port at the local exchange, more than enough for all.

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  Reply # 473728 24-May-2011 22:37 Send private message

marmel:

Seems crazy to have two fibre networks installed in some areas. Competition though I suppose?


Whererabouts will have two fibre networks?

Both TCL an TCOM have FTTN in some areas, but FTTH/P isnt going to be duplicated

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  Reply # 473730 24-May-2011 22:40 Send private message

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marmel:

Seems crazy to have two fibre networks installed in some areas. Competition though I suppose?


Whererabouts will have two fibre networks?

Both TCL an TCOM have FTTN in some areas, but FTTH/P isnt going to be duplicated


Thats what I am talking about, utilising the exisiting fibre where it has already been laid even if it is only FTTN as you have pointed out.  

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