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Topic # 90674 27-Sep-2011 16:52 Send private message

Hi All

I am posting this to get the views of others around the new Blackberry Smartphone Plans that Telecom are offering see: http://www.telecom.co.nz/mobile/mobile/plansandpricing/paymonthly 

I am in the position where i have a spare Blackberry Handset that I would like to get the Wife to start using but of course to make it worth while it requires a Blackberry Data Plan either a BIS or BES

i am just after the BIS option here as i have no plans to run a BES server at home. so i started to look at the options that they had and found the above info which is all well and good but a little on the pricey/not practical side for me at the moment but even if i could make the budget stretch to the $50 BB Smartphone Plan i have issues with what is gives you for your money 50 anytime minutes sounds ok but the 300 txts is a little on the light side based on the amount she sends now and then the 500mb of data is what i would call on the excessive side. i know i could add a txt boost to bring it up to more txts but that will make the bill at least $60 per month 

I use a Blackberry for work and barley use 100mb a month unless i am out of the office and need to teather my laptop.

After making contact via the telecom website to enquire about a "BIS Data Extra" that could be added on to the account like you can with Txt and Data Extras i was told the only way of doing that was to spend $30.61 for a 100mb BES extra which make the total for her account go up to about $60 (she has the $12 2500 txt option, $6 50mb data for her current phone and it is on the One Rate Combo @ $15 per month with 40 anytime min)

I was also advised that the cost difference was due to the nature of Blackberry data and how it is compressed so it adds extra complexity to the setup which i agree with but if they compress the data why have such a large cap surely with compression you can get more for less. 

I also suggested they should have made the plan go something like $50 for 50 anytime minutes, 500 or 1000 Txts and drop the data to 250mb and i would be happy to pay for it.

i suppose the question I am asking everyone here is do you think they should have a BIS Data Extra that is priced some what along the lines of the Current extras (prepaid ones) that would allow say 100mb of BIS for $12 and say 250mb for $18.

If they did this i think they may have a few more people taking up the blackberry option for personal use as well as Business use

Right that's my Rant for the Day this may or may not stir some debate but at least i got it off my chest


 

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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 526340 27-Sep-2011 17:16 Send private message

the problem with BB data plans is the telco has to pay a fee to rim for data unlike standard plans where costs and usage are kept in house.



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  Reply # 526379 27-Sep-2011 17:57 Send private message

I understand that it does cost more for them to run Blackberry Data and i have no problem with it i just think that they need a bit more flexibility with how they can add it to plans or the way they have made the plans.

Also i think they somewhat contradict themselves by offering the largish (IMHO) plans and then go on to say you don't need much cos it is compressed 

this post is in no way a stab or grump at telecom it is just my opinion and thoughts 

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  Reply # 526396 27-Sep-2011 18:28 Send private message

Have you taken a look at Vodafone's options? As far as I'm aware, all of their personal Smart plans now include BlackBerry BIS data. $45/month gets you 100 national minutes, 2500 national texts and 250mb of data with an extra GB for the first 6 months which seems like a much better deal than Telecom.











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Master Geek
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  Reply # 526401 27-Sep-2011 18:34 Send private message

It does look good but just need to confirm that the data will do BIS if JohnR is around maybe he knows????



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  Reply # 526414 27-Sep-2011 18:46 Send private message

Ok so the Smart Plans from Vodafone allow you to add the BIS service to any of their new plans for $10.20 per month so in the long run it would be $55 but i would end up with 100 anytime minutes 2500 txts and 250mb of BIS dat with the extra 1gb for 6 months (not that id need it.

also if you sign up to 12months they take $5 off per month so it could be $50

It does look like a better deal for sure. time to have a think about the provider i am loyal to???

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  Reply # 526423 27-Sep-2011 19:04 Send private message

I think you may be looking at the old plan information, the new plans don't require any sort of add-on. Take a look at http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=9372. (John can confirm this I'd imagine).

I'm on an older Smart 4 plan for iPhone (without an add-on) and happily used my SIM in a BlackBerry last week with BIS data just fine. :)











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  Reply # 526426 27-Sep-2011 19:15 Send private message

when i was on the site an online chat window came up and i chatted with them and asked them about BIS and i was told that it was an extra $10.20 per month on any of the new plans. he may have had it wrong but not sure. mean while i have been in contact with telecom again and i am awaiting the Home Solution Team aka the Customer retention team to call me back to see what they can do



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  Reply # 526460 27-Sep-2011 20:36 Send private message

After doing some reading on the Vodafone forums you are right @peppery the smart plans do include BIS out of the box with out any need to "bolt on" Addon so that makes me very happy and may just move to VF if Telecom dont come to the party



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  Reply # 526752 28-Sep-2011 13:51 Send private message

It looks like it will be a move to VF is the wife likes the Blackberry as Telecom can't/won't come to the party.

the lady i spoke to was very nice and did her best but she can only do so much. Thanks for listening to my ramblings Telecom and the Wider Geekzone community.

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