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  Reply # 664043 30-Jul-2012 15:29 Send private message

gehenna: How's this a problem with OS X or the App Store?


I'm with gehenna on this one. I believe I will need a Lion installer in the near future for now so I have it backed it up. It is your responsibility to do that.

If you have not bought Lion, then there are retail USB sticks floating around that you can buy.


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  Reply # 664069 30-Jul-2012 16:14 Send private message


I think this is a somewhat related question (!).  

I'd like to download Mountain Lion but have a low data cap (and low download rate, but that is another issue).

My Apple account is a US account rather than an NZ account.

If I download Mountain Lion from the app store using my US account, will the download come from local servers in NZ or from servers in the US?    This affects how I am billed for data and so it is quite important to me. 

Anybody happen to know?

Thanks!

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  Reply # 664074 30-Jul-2012 16:28 Send private message

pkb:
I think this is a somewhat related question (!).  

I'd like to download Mountain Lion but have a low data cap (and low download rate, but that is another issue).

My Apple account is a US account rather than an NZ account.

If I download Mountain Lion from the app store using my US account, will the download come from local servers in NZ or from servers in the US?    This affects how I am billed for data and so it is quite important to me. 

Anybody happen to know?

Thanks!


They come from Akamai caches, so it depends on whether your ISP routes Akamai content locally or not.




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Reply # 664076 30-Jul-2012 16:34 Send private message

pkb: if I download Mountain Lion from the app store using my US account, will the download come from local servers in NZ or from servers in the US?    This affects how I am billed for data and so it is quite important to me. 


There are still ISPs out there that have free national data !!!!!!? 
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  Reply # 664080 30-Jul-2012 16:44 Send private message

I would say it is a high chance it will be international data.

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  Reply # 664082 30-Jul-2012 16:48 Send private message

khull: I would say it is a high chance it will be international data.


It'll probably be a mix to be honest.  Depending on how well cached it is in NZ and which server is faster to download from.

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  Reply # 664090 30-Jul-2012 17:08 Send private message

gehenna:
khull: I would say it is a high chance it will be international data.


It'll probably be a mix to be honest.  Depending on how well cached it is in NZ and which server is faster to download from.



Hmm.   If I went to an Apple store would they let me use their connection to download the update?!   Seems quite rough that the only way to upgrade is to use over 1/3 my monthly data cap!

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  Reply # 664105 30-Jul-2012 17:16 Send private message

All (Retail Only excluding resellers etc) Apple Stores should have free WiFi that you can connect to.


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  Reply # 664481 31-Jul-2012 12:06 Send private message

gehenna:
khull: I would say it is a high chance it will be international data.


It'll probably be a mix to be honest.  Depending on how well cached it is in NZ and which server is faster to download from.


Something like OSX Mountain Lion is almost certain to be fully on the Akamai caches

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  Reply # 664506 31-Jul-2012 12:34 Send private message

pkb: 
Hmm.   If I went to an Apple store would they let me use their connection to download the update?!   Seems quite rough that the only way to upgrade is to use over 1/3 my monthly data cap!


I have heard of a number of people that did this when Lion came out.  Are you in America?  If so you'll almost certainly be downloading from local servers rather than internationally.

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  Reply # 664585 31-Jul-2012 13:46 Send private message

Worth noting as I haven't seen it mentioned, it is NZD 24.99 for 10.7->10.8 and/or 10.6->10.8.

Looks like the same specs as my Macbook (except I have 4GB of RAM and 250GB HD). I will be updating at some point.

One final comment. If you can get itunes gift cards on sale you can use these to get a discount on OSX. JB Hifi had them over the weekend but I didn't have time. Any updates on availability?

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  Reply # 669040 7-Aug-2012 14:34 Send private message

10.7 has been removed from the App store as soon as 10.8 was available and 10.6 has been removed as well. i have been told to purchase copies of 10.6 you need to call AppleCare to arrange this. For NZ number is 00800 7666 7666.

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  Reply # 669047 7-Aug-2012 14:40 Send private message

Basically, if 10.8 will _install_ on the system, then it'll run it just fine, although you might want a RAM upgrade.

If it doesn't meet the minimum requirements, then you wouldn't be able to even try, as it won't let you install it on a system that can't run a full 64-bit kernel. If it's at least a Core2Duo machine, you're probably okay.

10.8 should run at roughly the same speed as 10.6 does on the same hardware, assuming it'll run at all, as it actually has a smaller memory footprint.

Also: The 10.8 installer can be used to either upgrade an existing system, or if burned to a DVD, to do a completely clean install.




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