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  Reply # 607288 10-Apr-2012 09:29 Send private message

About the fee for a deposit,

If your account has fees for a manual deposit, and no, not all of them do,
If you have not notified the buyer that there is to be no manual deposit - tough, your account, your fees.
If you have notified the buyer not to do a manual deposit - ok, you should get the money back from the buyer.

I have previously performed a manual deposit when I wanted the item quickly. Cash deposited directly into the account shows up immediataly instead of overnight, allowing the seller to ship the item the same day.

Having said that, the banks have introduced more frequent transfers between banks, so, there is less advantage in that now though.

Oh, worst trade (kind of, I still sold sucessfully), I sold a 14" monitor as pick up only. This was clearly stated in the auction that it was pick up only. The top buyer sent me an email that he wanted me to courier the monitor to Wanganui, where he would check it out. If he didn't like it, he would send it back to me in Wellington, and, I was to pay all postage. Yeah right. I emailed the next bidder and he came and picked it up (this was back when the bidders email address was displayed).




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  Reply # 607295 10-Apr-2012 09:33 Send private message

Hey guys, I think we should get back on topic now. Let's continue on with the memorable stories on TradeMe :)

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  Reply # 607316 10-Apr-2012 10:22 Send private message

Fastest buy I ever made was for a USB sound card. I indicated "pickup" and the guy emailed me his address and phone number. I was due to go right past his address for a work mission, and called in with the cash within 5 minutes of pressing "buy now". Now that was a quick deal.

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  Reply # 607448 10-Apr-2012 15:20 Send private message

Kyanar:
stevenz:
cokemaster: This game planet thread has some awesome ownage of a trade me scammer - very amusing (but cruel) reading.


I hope I never meet either of them, they both sound uniquely unpleasant.

 


Ye gods, that thread is the best support I've ever seen for a law like the US' Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.

why? that pr*ck deserved everything he got

The only unfair debt collection practices in my opinion would be physical violence, just because someone owes you money it doesn't give you the right to go around and beat them up, although it would be nice. 

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  Reply # 607584 10-Apr-2012 21:02 Send private message

qwerty7: why? that pr*ck deserved everything he got

I'm with stevenz. Yes, the seller behaved badly, however for me that doesn't justify the way the guy went about getting the money back. I'm sure that approach may be necessary in some cases, but the way I read that thread it was more about trying to teach the guy a lesson than to get the money back. "Vigilante" may be too strong a word, but in my opinion just because the guy stayed [mostly] within the law doesn't make it right.

The only unfair debt collection practices in my opinion would be physical violence, just because someone owes you money it doesn't give you the right to go around and beat them up, although it would be nice. 

Each to his own opinion. I think in some cases intimidation can be just as nasty as a physical beat down.

My most memorable story?
A couple of years ago now I wanted to extend the simple single-dish-single-LNB dual receiver system that I had in place at the time. I was just starting out learning about satellite TV gear and I was having trouble with what I thought was poor reception. I bought a new LNB on Trade Me in the hope that it would help. It didn't. To cut a long story short, I spent hours testing the cabling, LNBs, dish alignment... everything I could think of. The seller offered copious amounts of helpful advice, well above and beyond the call of duty. He even sent me a 45cm dish, second LNB and spare cable *for free* to help me test. As it happens, both receivers that I was testing with turned out to be faulty (power supply problems - I guess I unwittingly shorted them at some point). The seller was incredibly gracious. I sent a hundred dollars to cover some of his costs - I'm sure that didn't even nearly cover his time responding to my emails but at the time I couldn't afford more. Now that I know a bit more about that stuff I try to pay it forward when other people need advice... and I never go to anybody else for TV gear.

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  Reply # 614193 24-Apr-2012 09:57 Send private message

Wow, interesting reading here :) I haven't done much trading on TM, but I've sold a TV and a dining room set, and bought a few bits and bobs, all positive experiences TG. The most positive has to be when I ordered a desk mount (articulating arms) for my monitors. Pressed the Buy Now button at 11pm Thursday night, paid by internet banking, saved the deposit confirmation as a PDF and emailed it to seller with my address, heard knock on the door at 8:30am Friday morning and standing there was a courier with my desk mount :) Now THAT was fast service. Needless to say I have this traders page bookmarked and check there first when searching for computer and office stuff on TM :)

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  Reply # 615903 27-Apr-2012 10:34 Send private message

I recently sold my Nintendo 3DS on TradeMe with a WHOLE hoard of games and accessories - I was selling it for $400 and continually got "questions" stating "You can buy this brand new at EB for $320" "you do know this is at EB for $320" "this is on sale for $320".

All of the stuff I was selling (inc the console itself) was less than 3 months old and the records showed on the DS that I had played for a total of 6 hours in that time (so pretty much brand new)!

I constantly had to refer people to the auction information which listed all of the games and accesories it came with and remind them that although you could buy the console itself new for that price, my one included all this extra stuff (i'd even price spy'd each item I was selling to show that what I was selling it for was WAY cheaper than what everything retailed for).

This went on for 7 days and then I got over the stupid questions so sold it outside of TM.

People who don't read the auction information *facepalm*.


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  Reply # 615944 27-Apr-2012 11:50 Send private message

My frustration on TradeMe is people who have listed things on there, but don't seem to want to sell them!

In 2009 I wanted to buy a specific car. I approached one seller and asked "how much would you like for this, i.e the price your happy to sell it at?"... their response "$1800", my response "I can come over tomorrow or whenever suits, with the $1800 in cash and take it away no questions/dramas"... their response "nah, I'll just wait and see if I get more" !!?? In the end they didn't get more, or even the same, in fact it went for $1400 and thats after dealing with many more people and questions over following 2 weeks.

This happened exactly the same with the second person I approached.
The third person - finally - was great. I got off the phone to them, drove the 2 hours to their place, handed over the cash, paperwork complete, and was out of there.

Now why the need to mention this is I am now going through it all again. I want to buy a specific motorcycle, but just getting the usual "I just want to let the auction run/I'll just wait and see if I get more", now from 3 sellers in a row.

Now I could totally understand this if I was low-balling them on their price, but I am offering them what they want/their asking price... but they think people will talk them UP on their asking price or something??

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  Reply # 615951 27-Apr-2012 12:00 Send private message

IlDuce: Now why the need to mention this is I am now going through it all again. I want to buy a specific motorcycle, but just getting the usual "I just want to let the auction run/I'll just wait and see if I get more", now from 3 sellers in a row.


Just to confirm, are you asking them to withdraw their auction, annoy all of the other bidders, and sell it to you outside of trademe because you want it now, or, are they classifieds?

 

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  Reply # 615957 27-Apr-2012 12:04 Send private message

IlDuce:
Now I could totally understand this if I was low-balling them on their price, but I am offering them what they want/their asking price... but they think people will talk them UP on their asking price or something??


A little OT, but we had a similar thing happen recently when house hunting. Found a house we were interested in, but the Vendor (selling privately) wanted more than what we could afford to pay at the time. After a couple of months we noted that he still hadn't sold, and as we had more money available (thanks to exceeding expectations when selling), we approached him to arrange a viewing time. He told me that he had decided he needed more money to do what they wanted to do elsewhere, so was going to be listing it at a higher price. So the house garners no interest, and he thinks he can INCREASE the asking price? Madness!




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  Reply # 615963 27-Apr-2012 12:10 Send private message

dolsen: Just to confirm, are you asking them to withdraw their auction, annoy all of the other bidders,?and sell it to you outside of trademe because you want it now, or, are they classifieds?

?


Always classified, otherwise I would just do buy now, if available.

I'm not into bidding wars as people seem to often bid like crazy on something, then later decide they don't want it, which results in auction being relisted (so a time delay/waste of my time) or results in artificially inflated price.

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  Reply # 615969 27-Apr-2012 12:19 Send private message

IlDuce: My frustration on TradeMe is people who have listed things on there, but don't seem to want to sell them!

In 2009 I wanted to buy a specific car. I approached one seller and asked "how much would you like for this, i.e the price your happy to sell it at?"... their response "$1800", my response "I can come over tomorrow or whenever suits, with the $1800 in cash and take it away no questions/dramas"... their response "nah, I'll just wait and see if I get more" !!?? In the end they didn't get more, or even the same, in fact it went for $1400 and thats after dealing with many more people and questions over following 2 weeks.

This happened exactly the same with the second person I approached.
The third person - finally - was great. I got off the phone to them, drove the 2 hours to their place, handed over the cash, paperwork complete, and was out of there.

Now why the need to mention this is I am now going through it all again. I want to buy a specific motorcycle, but just getting the usual "I just want to let the auction run/I'll just wait and see if I get more", now from 3 sellers in a row.

Now I could totally understand this if I was low-balling them on their price, but I am offering them what they want/their asking price... but they think people will talk them UP on their asking price or something??


But realistically is that not what an aution is all about? Its an auction website, not the classifieds.

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  Reply # 615970 27-Apr-2012 12:24 Send private message

BraaiGuy:
IlDuce: My frustration on TradeMe is people who have listed things on there, but don't seem to want to sell them!

In 2009 I wanted to buy a specific car. I approached one seller and asked "how much would you like for this, i.e the price your happy to sell it at?"... their response "$1800", my response "I can come over tomorrow or whenever suits, with the $1800 in cash and take it away no questions/dramas"... their response "nah, I'll just wait and see if I get more" !!?? In the end they didn't get more, or even the same, in fact it went for $1400 and thats after dealing with many more people and questions over following 2 weeks.

This happened exactly the same with the second person I approached.
The third person - finally - was great. I got off the phone to them, drove the 2 hours to their place, handed over the cash, paperwork complete, and was out of there.

Now why the need to mention this is I am now going through it all again. I want to buy a specific motorcycle, but just getting the usual "I just want to let the auction run/I'll just wait and see if I get more", now from 3 sellers in a row.

Now I could totally understand this if I was low-balling them on their price, but I am offering them what they want/their asking price... but they think people will talk them UP on their asking price or something??


But realistically is that not what an aution is all about? Its an auction website, not the classifieds.


Yes - but the point here is that these guys have listed as a classified on TradeMe - not as an active auction. There is a big difference.

The classified listings are just like listing it in the classified section of the newspaper - if you list it at Asking Price of $x, then that is what it is expected to sell for (or lower is haggling goes on). Not, you turn up to buy it and the seller starts asking for more money.  If they are listing it at and Asking Price of $x (classified) and then not selling it for that, then they are baiting buyers and maybe they should be reported to TradeMe!

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  Reply # 615971 27-Apr-2012 12:27 Send private message

dclegg: After a couple of months we noted that he still hadn't sold ... So the house garners no interest, and he thinks he can INCREASE the asking price? Madness!


Madness alright! Just like people who (for example) have an auction that is $50 reserve start, and nobody ever bids, yet each time it closes they do a FPO of $100?? Uhhh, If during the course of 7 days nobody puts a minimum bid of $50 on, then why would they pay double by FPO?

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  Reply # 615972 27-Apr-2012 12:29 Send private message

IlDuce:
dclegg: After a couple of months we noted that he still hadn't sold ... So the house garners no interest, and he thinks he can INCREASE the asking price? Madness!


Madness alright! Just like people who (for example) have an auction that is $50 reserve start, and nobody ever bids, yet each time it closes they do a FPO of $100?? Uhhh, If during the course of 7 days nobody puts a minimum bid of $50 on, then why would they pay double by FPO?


Yeah - seen that one done quite a few times. What a joke!

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