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  Reply # 716305 13-Nov-2012 12:37 Send private message

Well the nzta can't afford to make mistakes about this kind of stuff because it is extremely misleading to a lot of people. Given they're a government organisation, they would have checked then triple checked this before putting this out there. I doubt they would make such a stupid mistake like this.





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  Reply # 716331 13-Nov-2012 12:58 Send private message

MED Self service kiosks anyone?




Hmmmm

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  Reply # 716349 13-Nov-2012 13:15 Send private message

Can you point out the exact mistake they have made? Im struggling to find it after 11 pages.



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  Reply # 716352 13-Nov-2012 13:20 Send private message

Apparently the mistake is the way they (the nzta) interpreted the law on their site. It is not wrong from what I can tell.





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  Reply # 716357 13-Nov-2012 13:22 Send private message

Link?



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  Reply # 716358 13-Nov-2012 13:24 Send private message

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/rules/road-user-amendment-2009-qa.html#1 , see section "can calls and texts be sent while a driver is stuck in traffic"





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  Reply # 716365 13-Nov-2012 13:35 Send private message

I can see where you may be misled - however the webpage was updated prior to the amendment rules coming in.

Questions and answers are provided to accompany a new Rule or amendment Rule when it is signed. Please note − these versions of the Questions and answers are not updated to take into account any later amendments to the Rule and are retained for historic interest only.



The links to law on that page clearly show that part about accidents etc was not included and the q&a is purely a matter of historical record.

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  Reply # 716383 13-Nov-2012 13:54 Send private message

Next time just buy or bring a Camera with you in the car. You can snap pictures without getting any tickets because it is not a phone lol.



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  Reply # 716409 13-Nov-2012 14:17 Send private message

Yeh I should just buy a massive slr and drive down the motorway at full speed snapping pics just to prove a point, apparently that's not as dangerous as taking a photo with my phone while stopped at an onramp.





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  Reply # 716445 13-Nov-2012 14:54 Send private message

tardtasticx: Yeh I should just buy a massive slr and drive down the motorway at full speed snapping pics just to prove a point, apparently that's not as dangerous as taking a photo with my phone while stopped at an onramp.


I'm starting to wonder if using my phone GPS while driving is also illegal.

Because it is a phone and as long you are looking at it and navigate via tough screen is technically far worst than taking picture with it.

hmmmm

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  Reply # 716446 13-Nov-2012 14:54 Send private message

tardtasticx: Yeh I should just buy a massive slr and drive down the motorway at full speed snapping pics just to prove a point, apparently that's not as dangerous as taking a photo with my phone while stopped at an onramp.


You're still not allowed to drive dangerously or recklessly. (In fact the reason the mobile phone ban failed the first time around is because it was argued they could already be considered banned under existing reckless driving laws.)




 

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  Reply # 716450 13-Nov-2012 14:56 Send private message

TinyTim:
tardtasticx: Yeh I should just buy a massive slr and drive down the motorway at full speed snapping pics just to prove a point, apparently that's not as dangerous as taking a photo with my phone while stopped at an onramp.


You're still not allowed to drive dangerously or recklessly. (In fact the reason the mobile phone ban failed the first time around is because it was argued they could already be considered banned under existing reckless driving laws.)


Still trying to digest these comments from tardtasticx. Is this the mentality here on this forum ??



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  Reply # 716463 13-Nov-2012 15:05 Send private message

BraaiGuy:
TinyTim:
tardtasticx: Yeh I should just buy a massive slr and drive down the motorway at full speed snapping pics just to prove a point, apparently that's not as dangerous as taking a photo with my phone while stopped at an onramp.


You're still not allowed to drive dangerously or recklessly. (In fact the reason the mobile phone ban failed the first time around is because it was argued they could already be considered banned under existing reckless driving laws.)


Still trying to digest these comments from tardtasticx. Is this the mentality here on this forum ??


Not quite sure what you're trying to get at with that comment, I dont intend on doing such a thing either way, I don't use a mobile while I'm driving (the car in motion and in the flow of regular traffic) because I know its a stupid thing to do. I only done this because myself and all the cars around me were completely stopped, and I believed I was well within my rights to do so. 





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  Reply # 716464 13-Nov-2012 15:06 Send private message

BraaiGuy:
TinyTim:
tardtasticx: Yeh I should just buy a massive slr and drive down the motorway at full speed snapping pics just to prove a point, apparently that's not as dangerous as taking a photo with my phone while stopped at an onramp.


You're still not allowed to drive dangerously or recklessly. (In fact the reason the mobile phone ban failed the first time around is because it was argued they could already be considered banned under existing reckless driving laws.)


Still trying to digest these comments from tardtasticx. Is this the mentality here on this forum ??


As he says, he's just trying to make a point about the illogic of phone cameras being banned but dedicated cameras are not. 

Have to remember that laws are not logical but are reactionary, so if people did start causing accidents while driving and using SLRs, they would probably be specifically banned too. 




 

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  Reply # 716466 13-Nov-2012 15:11 Send private message

TinyTim:
BraaiGuy:
TinyTim:
tardtasticx: Yeh I should just buy a massive slr and drive down the motorway at full speed snapping pics just to prove a point, apparently that's not as dangerous as taking a photo with my phone while stopped at an onramp.


You're still not allowed to drive dangerously or recklessly. (In fact the reason the mobile phone ban failed the first time around is because it was argued they could already be considered banned under existing reckless driving laws.)


Still trying to digest these comments from tardtasticx. Is this the mentality here on this forum ??


As he says, he's just trying to make a point about the illogic of phone cameras being banned but dedicated cameras are not. 

Have to remember that bad laws are not logical but are reactionary, so if people did start causing accidents while driving and using SLRs, they would probably create another bad law so they can be specifically banned too. 


There, fixed that for you :)

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