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  Reply # 762181 14-Feb-2013 12:12 Send private message

skewt: I imagine there would be people who would riot, there have been quite a few reports of this case that put the police in bad light

1, They shot and killed two innocents in a car that was a different colour and type to Dorner's
2, Cops shot at another innocent before confirming who it was
2, They burnt down the cabin with him inside which they are now trying to take down all audio related to it
 2a, he could have had a hostage and they didn't know (how would you feel if that is how the cops dealt with all stand off's?)
 2b, it isn't confirmed the body is him yet
 2c, it apparently violates the geneva convention that they did it this way
3, They found his wallet at the border and an official is quoted saying they also found his wallet in the cabin (who has two wallets?)



Your first item (no idea on the others) is horribly wrong. There were three separate incidents in which police shot at vehicles and their occupants. No one was killed in those incidents. Nasty gunshot injuries in some cases, yes.

In all three incidents the vehicles were substantially different to Dorner's hijacked vehicle for which police had an accurate description. People will draw their own conclusions about that for sure. In these three incidents it really does look like a shoot first attitude that puts the lives of LAPD officers ahead of those of the general population.

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  Reply # 762187 14-Feb-2013 12:17 Send private message

In these situations it's easy to stand back from here and rely on what has been pretty average reporting from the press as fact, when there are factors that won't be being taken into account. I am not saying that it's ideal, but hindsight is 20/20. No rioting is likely to occur as a result of it. He wasn't innocent.

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  Reply # 762206 14-Feb-2013 12:35 Send private message

gzt:
skewt: I imagine there would be people who would riot, there have been quite a few reports of this case that put the police in bad light

1, They shot and killed two innocents in a car that was a different colour and type to Dorner's
2, Cops shot at another innocent before confirming who it was
2, They burnt down the cabin with him inside which they are now trying to take down all audio related to it
 2a, he could have had a hostage and they didn't know (how would you feel if that is how the cops dealt with all stand off's?)
 2b, it isn't confirmed the body is him yet
 2c, it apparently violates the geneva convention that they did it this way
3, They found his wallet at the border and an official is quoted saying they also found his wallet in the cabin (who has two wallets?)



Your first item (no idea on the others) is horribly wrong. There were three separate incidents in which police shot at vehicles and their occupants. No one was killed in those incidents. Nasty gunshot injuries in some cases, yes.

In all three incidents the vehicles were substantially different to Dorner's hijacked vehicle for which police had an accurate description. People will draw their own conclusions about that for sure. In these three incidents it really does look like a shoot first attitude that puts the lives of LAPD officers ahead of those of the general population.


ok i guess i didn't know these facts, now i have the same perception as freitasm

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  Reply # 762216 14-Feb-2013 12:37 Send private message

if this is true operation geronimo sounds legit - they identified the target before shooting ..

you mean the LAPD shot without identifying the target and i didn't know they burnt the shed i thought the guy burnt in down from futility ... wow

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  Reply # 762227 14-Feb-2013 13:04 Send private message

gzt:
Your first item (no idea on the others) is horribly wrong. There were three separate incidents in which police shot at vehicles and their occupants. No one was killed in those incidents. Nasty gunshot injuries in some cases, yes.
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Yes sorry I got that part incorrect, but the police still fired 15 shots into the vehicle
I hadn't seen any other news on that report other than the original one that was incorrect

This was the vehicle:



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  Reply # 762236 14-Feb-2013 13:08 Send private message

Yes, I'd love to be fired upon like that. Even if nothing else comes those people will have a good lawsuit on the LAPD.




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