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Topic # 86991 16-Jul-2011 20:21 Send private message

I been reading up on google about haarp and some poeple say that haarp did christchurch Earthquake
more info http://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/major-earthquake-strikes-near-christchurch-haarp/
what you guys think? true or not true




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  Reply # 494120 16-Jul-2011 20:23 Send private message

Bollix

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  Reply # 494123 16-Jul-2011 20:44 Send private message

oxnsox: Bollix

Why not?

Not sure if it was HAARP this time, but HAARP has been used before for these things I am sure.

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  Reply # 494129 16-Jul-2011 20:57 Send private message


Not sure if it was HAARP this time, but HAARP has been used before for these things I am sure.



What makes you so sure? I don't see how something used fo studying the ionosphere and other parts of the atmosphere could trigger seismec activity which comes directly from tectonic shifting and all. It's just another subject that conspiracy theorists use..

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  Reply # 494130 16-Jul-2011 21:02 Send private message

codyc1515:  but HAARP has been used before for these things I am sure.

Bollix 

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  Reply # 494131 16-Jul-2011 21:03 Send private message

oxnsox:
codyc1515:  but HAARP has been used before for these things I am sure.

Bollix 

What makes you so sure? Quote some "scientific" evidence that proves it specifically can't be used for these purposes.

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  Reply # 494137 16-Jul-2011 21:18 Send private message

codyc1515:What makes you so sure? Quote some "scientific" evidence that proves it specifically can't be used for these purposes.

This is a typical response of those who favour the conspiracy over the science.

Take some time to do your own research on how these programs work and what they are designed to do before questioning the science. The data from these (and similar) stations is widely used to help those involved in communications broadcasts (and GPS) on a daily basis.

New Zealand has been involved in Upper Atmospheric research for decades, and at one stage operated a number of Ionospheric stations (4 or 5) that could be described as precursors to the HAARP project.

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  Reply # 494151 16-Jul-2011 21:57 Send private message

A close look at HAARP, the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, and the claim that it's a superweapon.


...there's nothing remotely secret or even classified about HAARP. No security clearance is needed to visit and tour the site, and HAARP usually holds an open house every summer during which anyone can see everything there.


HAARP consists of an observatory and an adjacent 28-acre field with 180 HF (high frequency) antennas, each 72 feet tall, with a maximum transmission power of 3600 kilowatts, about 75 times the power of a commercial radio station, but only a tiny fraction of the strength of the natural solar radiation striking the same part of the ionosphere at which HAARP is aimed.



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note that the maximum ELF signal amplitude produced by HAARP has been measured at less than one ten-millionth of the Earth's natural background field.


 

 




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  Reply # 494155 16-Jul-2011 22:12 Send private message

...and for crying out loud! Look at some of the "supporting" links to the chemtrails site. These people are flipping out over clouds. Clouds. Just clouds. They seriously need to back and learn some elementary science, how clouds are formed and (I can't believe I'm saying this on a geek forum) what makes those colours appear when light passes through water vapour. A few clicks and you end up in crop-circle land. *YAWNS*

I keep seeing references to aluminium around those sites. Do they realise just how common it is? It's the third most abundant element, after oxygen and silicon.




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  Reply # 494157 16-Jul-2011 22:18 Send private message

Are we back to discussing chemtrails, HAARP and other crazy stuff again folks?

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  Reply # 494160 16-Jul-2011 22:30 Send private message

freitasm: Are we back to discussing chemtrails, HAARP and other crazy stuff again folks?

Nope... Its all bollix... 

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  Reply # 494164 16-Jul-2011 22:51 Send private message

I've just suffered a mirthquake .

But fixed it by deciding to worry about how our educational system manages to turn out people who believe such absolute rubbish.


  

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  Reply # 494176 16-Jul-2011 23:51 Send private message

codyc1515:
oxnsox:
codyc1515:  but HAARP has been used before for these things I am sure.

Bollix 

What makes you so sure? Quote some "scientific" evidence that proves it specifically can't be used for these purposes.

That's not the way science works.

You prove things. I could say that I caused the earthquakes by thumping on the ground every 10 minutes for a couple of hours, and then challenge you to prove I didn't cause the quakes.

Cheers - N


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  Reply # 494177 16-Jul-2011 23:56 Send private message

Talkiet:
codyc1515:
oxnsox:
codyc1515:  but HAARP has been used before for these things I am sure.

Bollix 

What makes you so sure? Quote some "scientific" evidence that proves it specifically can't be used for these purposes.

That's not the way science works.

You prove things. I could say that I caused the earthquakes by thumping on the ground every 10 minutes for a couple of hours, and then challenge you to prove I didn't cause the quakes.

Cheers - N


I can't prove that you caused the quakes as the scenario is non-repeatable/non-accurate due to a number of factors e.g. stomping strength, area of stomping, accuracy of the clock, etc.

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  Reply # 494180 16-Jul-2011 23:59 Send private message

codyc1515:
Talkiet:
codyc1515:
oxnsox:
codyc1515:  but HAARP has been used before for these things I am sure.

Bollix 

What makes you so sure? Quote some "scientific" evidence that proves it specifically can't be used for these purposes.

That's not the way science works.

You prove things. I could say that I caused the earthquakes by thumping on the ground every 10 minutes for a couple of hours, and then challenge you to prove I didn't cause the quakes.

Cheers - N


I can't prove that you caused the quakes as the scenario is non-repeatable/non-accurate due to a number of factors e.g. stomping strength, area of stomping, accuracy of the clock, etc.


You've missed the point.

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  Reply # 494181 17-Jul-2011 00:01 Send private message

Talkiet:
codyc1515:
Talkiet:
codyc1515:
oxnsox:
codyc1515:  but HAARP has been used before for these things I am sure.

Bollix 

What makes you so sure? Quote some "scientific" evidence that proves it specifically can't be used for these purposes.

That's not the way science works.

You prove things. I could say that I caused the earthquakes by thumping on the ground every 10 minutes for a couple of hours, and then challenge you to prove I didn't cause the quakes.

Cheers - N


I can't prove that you caused the quakes as the scenario is non-repeatable/non-accurate due to a number of factors e.g. stomping strength, area of stomping, accuracy of the clock, etc.


You've missed the point.

I see what his point is, but the theory is wrong. He must have evidence to back it up.

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