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Reply # 535248 19-Oct-2011 17:09
KiwiNZ: Where were the protests from these people when all was going well and the Corporations were making good profits. http://takethesquare.net/2011/10/18/naomi-klein-occupy-wall-street-is-the-most-important-thing-in-the-world-now/

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Reply # 535249 19-Oct-2011 17:09
MikeyPI: KiwiNZ: It's simply Rent-A-Crowd. The same group show up at every protest, be it about Worm Rot or Coro Street changing times. Yup... From Rome to London, Latin & North America, its just a rent-a-crowd.. Stick your head back in the sand, you will prefer that to reality... If you really believe in it all that much why aren't you at a protest right now instead of saying how great it is on here?

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Reply # 535250 19-Oct-2011 17:12
freitasm: Pictures from manifestations around the world. Prime example of what I said earlier, these protests are just going to become violent and they did.

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Reply # 535252 19-Oct-2011 17:16
codyc1515: freitasm: Pictures from manifestations around the world. Prime example of what I said earlier, these protests are just going to become violent and they did. but, but, maaaan, it was teh pigs that started it!!!! /excuse

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Reply # 535253 19-Oct-2011 17:16
dontpanic42: KiwiNZ: Where were the protests from these people when all was going well and the Corporations were making good profits. http://takethesquare.net/2011/10/18/naomi-klein-occupy-wall-street-is-the-most-important-thing-in-the-world-now/ Your link proves what ? KiwiNZ Whāia te iti kahurangi Ki te tūohu koe, me he maunga teitei Pursue excellence – should you stumble, let it be to a lofty mountain

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Reply # 535254 19-Oct-2011 17:19
codyc1515: MikeyPI: KiwiNZ: It's simply Rent-A-Crowd. The same group show up at every protest, be it about Worm Rot or Coro Street changing times. Yup... From Rome to London, Latin & North America, its just a rent-a-crowd.. Stick your head back in the sand, you will prefer that to reality... If you really believe in it all that much why aren't you at a protest right now instead of saying how great it is on here? Who says I havent been participating??

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Reply # 535256 19-Oct-2011 17:21
MikeyPI: codyc1515: MikeyPI: KiwiNZ: It's simply Rent-A-Crowd. The same group show up at every protest, be it about Worm Rot or Coro Street changing times. Yup... From Rome to London, Latin & North America, its just a rent-a-crowd.. Stick your head back in the sand, you will prefer that to reality... If you really believe in it all that much why aren't you at a protest right now instead of saying how great it is on here? Who says I havent been participating?? No one.

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Reply # 535258 19-Oct-2011 17:21
blakamin: codyc1515: freitasm: Pictures from manifestations around the world. Prime example of what I said earlier, these protests are just going to become violent and they did. but, but, maaaan, it was teh pigs that started it!!!! /excuse It takes two to tango. /pwns

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Reply # 535259 19-Oct-2011 17:21
codyc1515: freitasm: Pictures from manifestations around the world. Prime example of what I said earlier, these protests are just going to become violent and they did. Only 2 out of the 40 photos depicted violence from protesters. It is obviously the exception, not the rule. The majority of protests around the world have remained non-violent. The violence has been coming from law enforcement, not from the protesters (with the exception of the inevitable few that ruin it for the many).

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Reply # 535260 19-Oct-2011 17:22
dontpanic42: codyc1515: freitasm: Pictures from manifestations around the world. Prime example of what I said earlier, these protests are just going to become violent and they did. Only 2 out of the 40 photos depicted violence from protesters. It is obviously the exception, not the rule. The majority of protests around the world have remained non-violent. The violence has been coming from law enforcement, not from the protesters (with the exception of the inevitable few that ruin it for the many). Ah, you are right for that link but you are only going by what they are showing you.

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Reply # 535263 19-Oct-2011 17:27
codyc1515: freitasm: Pictures from manifestations around the world. Prime example of what I said earlier, these protests are just going to become violent and they did. To expand on this, violence is our society is still acceptable. We still violently execute those we believe to guilty of gross evil, we still exercise violent retribution, and we still allow violent sport. Would it have been wrong for the German people to overthrow Hitler with force? Cambodians to Pol Pot? Would it have been wrong for the American people to overthrow Bush to avoid the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the silent war in Pakistan? Were you lamenting the violence shown in the protests in Egypt, Syria & others? Are we finally at the point where the survival of a few, outweigh the survival of many?

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Reply # 535264 19-Oct-2011 17:30
KiwiNZ: dontpanic42: KiwiNZ: Where were the protests from these people when all was going well and the Corporations were making good profits. http://takethesquare.net/2011/10/18/naomi-klein-occupy-wall-street-is-the-most-important-thing-in-the-world-now/ Your link proves what ? Sorry, I should have quoted the relevant part: Something else this movement is doing right: You have committed yourselves to non-violence. You have refused to give the media the images of broken windows and street fights it craves so desperately. And that tremendous discipline has meant that, again and again, the story has been the disgraceful and unprovoked police brutality. Which we saw more of just last night. Meanwhile, support for this movement grows and grows. More wisdom. But the biggest difference a decade makes is that in 1999, we were taking on capitalism at the peak of a frenzied economic boom. Unemployment was low, stock portfolios were bulging. The media was drunk on easy money. Back then it was all about start-ups, not shut downs. We pointed out that the deregulation behind the frenzy came at a price. It was damaging to labor standards. It was damaging to environmental standards. Corporations were becoming more powerful than governments and that was damaging to our democracies. But to be honest with you, while the good times rolled, taking on an economic system based on greed was a tough sell, at least in rich countries. Ten years later, it seems as if there aren’t any more rich countries. Just a whole lot of rich people. People who got rich looting the public wealth and exhausting natural resources around the world. The point is, today everyone can see that the system is deeply unjust and careening out of control. Unfettered greed has trashed the global economy. And it is trashing the natural world as well. We are overfishing our oceans, polluting our water with fracking and deepwater drilling, turning to the dirtiest forms of energy on the planet, like the Alberta tar sands. And the atmosphere cannot absorb the amount of carbon we are putting into it, creating dangerous warming. The new normal is serial disasters: economic and ecological. People were protesting "back in the day" about these very same issues, but it was just falling on ears that were being bombarded by the sounds of unsustainable economic boom. This time, people are waking up.

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Reply # 535265 19-Oct-2011 17:31
MikeyPI: codyc1515: freitasm: Pictures from manifestations around the world. Prime example of what I said earlier, these protests are just going to become violent and they did. To expand on this, violence is our society is still acceptable. We still violently execute those we believe to guilty of gross evil, we still exercise violent retribution, and we still allow violent sport. Would it have been wrong for the German people to overthrow Hitler with force? Cambodians to Pol Pot? Would it have been wrong for the American people to overthrow Bush to avoid the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the silent war in Pakistan? Were you lamenting the violence shown in the protests in Egypt, Syria & others? Are we finally at the point where the survival of a few, outweigh the survival of many? Survival of many, achieved by violence. Thank you for proving to me that this is just nonsense and participated in by those who just want to cause trouble and destroy things. KiwiNZ Whāia te iti kahurangi Ki te tūohu koe, me he maunga teitei Pursue excellence – should you stumble, let it be to a lofty mountain

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Reply # 535269 19-Oct-2011 17:37
@codyc1515 - I thought you said you were not coming back to this discussion after you got pinged for abusing the comment syntax? Anyway, if you are going to return - some of your posts are interesting, but the huge number of them just overwhelms the discussion to the point where it is not a discussion anymore. When I started writing this - out of the 10 posts on this page, 5 of them were yours. That's getting kind of silly. Maybe combine your thoughts into fewer posts and wait a while before posting a response. Just a suggestion. It wouldn't kill ya.

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Reply # 535270 19-Oct-2011 17:39
KiwiNZ: Survival of many, achieved by violence. Thank you for proving to me that this is just nonsense and participated in by those who just want to cause trouble and destroy things. Wait, so what your saying is it would have been wrong for those societies to violently over throw fascist regimes???? If so think about that for a moment.... You would happily allow the deaths of a million or so people, just so no one hurt your leaders? Thats both morally and intellectually bankrupt..

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