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  Reply # 568447 13-Jan-2012 15:09 Send private message

Admit it or not, some people do look up the powers like fame, money, beauty and the fame of knowledge…this may make it easier to convince some people that the protesters in the movement are not  all unemployed, unclean ‘miscreants’ and ‘misfits’.

Again, it s not about who joined the movement. It s about the issues they address and ideas they promote.

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  Reply # 568448 13-Jan-2012 15:10 Send private message

listudio: Admit it or not, some people do look up the powers like fame, money, beauty and the fame of knowledge…this may make it easier to convince some people that the protesters in the movement are not  all unemployed, unclean ‘miscreants’ and ‘misfits’.

Again, it s not about who joined the movement. It s about the issues they address and ideas they promote.


Yep and those actors etc spent weeks camped ........... Yeah right

The whole movement is a Gallus gallus domesticus , sine capite




Mike

 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

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  Reply # 568451 13-Jan-2012 15:14 Send private message

listudio: Admit it or not, some people do look up the powers like fame, money, beauty and the fame of knowledge…this may make it easier to convince some people that the protesters in the movement are not  all unemployed, unclean ‘miscreants’ and ‘misfits’.

Again, it s not about who joined the movement. It s about the issues they address and ideas they promote.


Ok you just contradicted yourself majorly.  

And I don't think the fact that people may look up to Miley being relevant to the topic. Is she a person with a extensive knowledge or qualified to make judgements that are trying to affect other peoples perceptions? No. 

So far we have failed to establish:   It s about the issues they address and ideas they promote. And I don't think Miley or any other celebrity you may pop out is going to address this current issue...

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  Reply # 568453 13-Jan-2012 15:17 Send private message

Cloudmelon:
listudio: Admit it or not, some people do look up the powers like fame, money, beauty and the fame of knowledge…this may make it easier to convince some people that the protesters in the movement are not  all unemployed, unclean ‘miscreants’ and ‘misfits’.

Again, it s not about who joined the movement. It s about the issues they address and ideas they promote.


Ok you just contradicted yourself majorly.  

And I don't think the fact that people may look up to Miley being relevant to the topic. Is she a person with a extensive knowledge or qualified to make judgements that are trying to affect other peoples perceptions? No. 

So far we have failed to establish:   It s about the issues they address and ideas they promote. And I don't think Miley or any other celebrity you may pop out is going to address this current issue...



Pick up the infomation whatever you like to pick up, your choice..  

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  Reply # 568460 13-Jan-2012 15:21 Send private message

listudio:
Cloudmelon:
listudio: Admit it or not, some people do look up the powers like fame, money, beauty and the fame of knowledge…this may make it easier to convince some people that the protesters in the movement are not  all unemployed, unclean ‘miscreants’ and ‘misfits’.

Again, it s not about who joined the movement. It s about the issues they address and ideas they promote.


Ok you just contradicted yourself majorly.  

And I don't think the fact that people may look up to Miley being relevant to the topic. Is she a person with a extensive knowledge or qualified to make judgements that are trying to affect other peoples perceptions? No. 

So far we have failed to establish:   It s about the issues they address and ideas they promote. And I don't think Miley or any other celebrity you may pop out is going to address this current issue...



Pick up the infomation whatever you like to pick up, your choice..  


I'm awaiting a decent informed response from someone.

I'm not against improvements, I don't think things are perfect.

But I don't quite see how whinging about everything and doing nothing is going to achieve anything. So far it seems to have done more bad than good.

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  Reply # 568471 13-Jan-2012 15:28 Send private message


I'm awaiting a decent informed response from someone.

I'm against improvements, I don't think things are perfect.

But I don't quite see how whinging about everything and doing nothing is going to achieve anything. So far it seems to have done more bad than good. 


If you genuinely want to know more about it, there are a lot of resources online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_movement  http://www.occupytogether.org/actions/

Assumed you are an adult, so no one would put the food straight into your mouth, help yourself please.

  

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  Reply # 568484 13-Jan-2012 15:52 Send private message

The occupy individuals have some fairly bizarre economic ideas.

Increase Corporate tax, this will reduce the number of available jobs and increase unemployment. Increased unemployment reduces the countries tax take and increases Government spending and borrowing thus burdening future generations with increasing debt.

Not allowing Governments to reduce total spending again will increase Government borrowing thus burdening future generations with increasing debt.

Housing is not cheap, never has. One will not afford a house if one sits on one Gluteus maximus and does nothing.

I love this one "We also decry the shameless exploitation and manipulation of our young people for profit by companies selling them unhealthy foods and debilitating products" So these individuals believe that our young have no will power and all decisions are made for them . What a load of rubbish.

This is a beauty "We also denounce the destructive, systemic undermining of our economic self-sufficiency, the flooding of our local markets with cheap goods from overseas at the expense of local producers, the irrevocable sale to faceless foreign corporations of our precious lands and resources, and the shameless lack of social conscience exhibited by some of our companies."  So they would rather the 99% be put is a worse position by being forced to purchase expensive items and not have access to low cost alternatives.

The Occupy individuals would be better served returning to school and learning some real knowledge rather some trumped up Web rubbish.




Mike

 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

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  Reply # 568488 13-Jan-2012 16:03 Send private message

What a movement can do is to bring up the issues publically and push the government to act on it so as to improve the system. Government is in the position to make actual changes.

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  Reply # 568491 13-Jan-2012 16:05 Send private message

listudio: What a movement can do is to bring up the issues publically and push the government to act on it so as to improve the system. Government is in the position to make actual changes.


I don't believe that is something being disputed..  

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  Reply # 568493 13-Jan-2012 16:10 Send private message

listudio: What a movement can do is to bring up the issues publically and push the government to act on it so as to improve the system. Government is in the position to make actual changes.


Yes a Government is in a position to make changes, those changes must be made for the greater good of the country as a whole. The issue is the very very small group that is the Occupy movement is not the Country as a whole although they make grandiose and erroneous claims that they are.




Mike

 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

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  Reply # 568496 13-Jan-2012 16:15 Send private message

Cloudmelon:
listudio: What a movement can do is to bring up the issues publically and push the government to act on it so as to improve the system. Government is in the position to make actual changes.


I don't believe that is something being disputed..  

Glad to see your brain working, lets be clear, government is in the role and will organise good teams and experts to work out the problems.

gzt

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  Reply # 568497 13-Jan-2012 16:20 Send private message

KiwiNZ: Now if it were a Phd and Economist, Nobel prize winner it may add some credence to the cause, [...]

I doubt it will advance the discussion but that person would be Joseph Stiglitz exactly. He has written a lot of articles and given a lot of interviews but these two give a good idea of what he is thinking and saying. He has spoken in support of and at Occupy:

http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/01/stiglitz-depression-201201

The first article was written prior to occupy, and is believed to have inspired the "the other 99%" meme.

The second is January 2012.

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Reply # 568499 13-Jan-2012 16:25 Send private message

listudio:
Cloudmelon:
listudio: What a movement can do is to bring up the issues publically and push the government to act on it so as to improve the system. Government is in the position to make actual changes.


I don't believe that is something being disputed..  

Glad to see your brain working, lets be clear, government is in the role and will organise good teams and experts to work out the problems.


Lol ouch 

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  Reply # 568502 13-Jan-2012 16:25 Send private message

gzt:
KiwiNZ: Now if it were a Phd and Economist, Nobel prize winner it may add some credence to the cause, [...]

I doubt it will advance the discussion but that person would be Joseph Stiglitz exactly. He has written a lot of articles and given a lot of interviews but these two give a good idea of what he is thinking and saying. He has spoken in support of and at Occupy:

http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/01/stiglitz-depression-201201

The first article was written prior to occupy, and is believed to have inspired the "the other 99%" meme.

The second is January 2012.


The occupy movement my find this link advantageous.....  http://www.mapsofworld.com/

The USA is not New Zealand. Their Economic system is not our economic system. Their problems are theirs not ours. Why is that so hard for them to understand.

 




Mike

 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

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  Reply # 568503 13-Jan-2012 16:27 Send private message

gzt:
KiwiNZ: Now if it were a Phd and Economist, Nobel prize winner it may add some credence to the cause, [...]

I doubt it will advance the discussion but that person would be Joseph Stiglitz exactly. He has written a lot of articles and given a lot of interviews but these two give a good idea of what he is thinking and saying. He has spoken in support of and at Occupy:

http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/01/stiglitz-depression-201201

The first article was written prior to occupy, and is believed to have inspired the "the other 99%" meme.

The second is January 2012.



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