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  Reply # 604038 2-Apr-2012 17:39 Send private message

I believe the Pay Per View service is just that not advertised as a New Release section it is the Distribution companies that decide what can and can't be added into the subscription model for unlimited streaming.

I would love more content, I would like apps and better resolution, I would like to win Lotto but I don't control these things will I still keep paying my $$$ yes sure why not.

People are going on about there's no way they would drop Sky for this and others are saying they will. It's not supposed to be a Sky replacement it's not advertised as this in any way. If people don't want to pay $10 per month or more when it changes to $16.95 no one's forcing you to do so. Just like no one forces you to pay Sky $45ish per month for pointless stuff your not likely to watch then another $8 - $20ish on top of that $45ish to watch anything that's worthwhile.

Choice is yours people you either choose to or not. I commend Quickflix for coming into a marketplace like ours where Sky is the dominant pay tv option with huge in home saturation.

The way I see it it's onward and upwards and things can only get better for which I am sure they will.

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  Reply # 604047 2-Apr-2012 17:58 Send private message

jtbthatsme: ...snip...

Well said. 




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  Reply # 604049 2-Apr-2012 18:02 Send private message

Instead of complaining why not go to the Australian website and see what its available the.It will give you an idea what we can expect to see here when it gets going.




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  Reply # 604050 2-Apr-2012 18:03 Send private message

jtbthatsme: 

will I still keep paying my $$$ yes sure why not.



Because you could spend it on something you actually want? Seriously, do you think the service, as it stands, is value for money? 

OK, I get the "If you don't support it then there won't be a service" argument. Well, I'm not a venture capitalist. If they need more money to pay for better content, resolution, et al. Well, then they need to see a venture capital firm and borrow it, build a decent service, and then ask me to sign up.

jtbthatsme: 

People are going on about there's no way they would drop Sky for this and others are saying they will.



A streaming service most definitely has the potential to put the wind up Sky. If they built a base offering TV series and movies (in reasonable quantities, you know like the local Video Store), who says they couldn't bid for the rights to sport and stream that PPV, that would be the end of Sky.

It isn't that a streaming service isn't a serious rival for Sky, there is serious potential for the right service to  take Sky to the cleaners. Its that this streaming service isn't a rival for ... Yeah, if you can think of something it is a rival for I'd like to hear about it. 

 




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  Reply # 604068 2-Apr-2012 18:30 Send private message

ronw: Instead of complaining why not go to the Australian website and see what its available the.It will give you an idea what we can expect to see here when it gets going.


Im just adding my thoughts into the discussion.

I have looked at the AU website and that looks like a viable service, why isnt most of the content here already?

Quickflix have been asked multiple times on Facebook if any more content is coming and they've given very vague replies. I dont have high hopes myself.

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  Reply # 604070 2-Apr-2012 18:38 Send private message


I would imagine because the firm will have to negotiate contracts with all the film companies in New Zealand. Just because they have rights in Australia does not mean they have rights here. 
It will take time and they may never get rights to stuff that Sky already has deals for. New stuff might be more easy to get rights. I do not imagine they will ever get rights to Fox output because Murdoch owns both Fox and 49% of SKYTV. That si the penalty for letting Sky get such a hold in NZ. Hopefully in future a government might have the guts to change the rules around Sky



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Im just adding my thoughts into the discussion.

I have looked at the AU website and that looks like a viable service, why isnt most of the content here already?

Quickflix have been asked multiple times on Facebook if any more content is coming and they've given very vague replies. I dont have high hopes myself.




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  Reply # 604071 2-Apr-2012 18:42 Send private message

ronw:
I would imagine because the firm will have to negotiate contracts with all the film companies in New Zealand. Just because they have rights in Australia does not mean they have rights here. 
It will take time and they may never get rights to stuff that Sky already has deals for. New stuff might be more easy to get rights. I do not imagine they will ever get rights to Fox output because Murdoch owns both Fox and 49% of SKYTV. That si the penalty for letting Sky get such a hold in NZ. Hopefully in future a government might have the guts to change the rules around Sky


I agree that this may be the issue with the current catalog, but I do think if this is true that they were very silly to launch without already negotiating the deals etc.

If sky is the one blocking this, hopefully the government will jump in for a look, but we'll see.

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  Reply # 604080 2-Apr-2012 18:59 Send private message

ArcticSilver: Cant say i've enjoyed my experience so far:

I have had site issues, though these have fixed themselves (this I can forgive).

The lack of content is a large problem for me, even the TV series's that are listed dont have all the seaons.

When signing up you are billed an "administration fee". Why is there one for what I asume is an automated process? Also this is NOT clearly outlined and in my mind is borderline false advertising. I complained about this and suggested that they amend their advertising to make it clear as to what you are actually charged (not just $9.99!). Note: They did refund me the extra $8.50 charge when I complained.

Pay per view has quite a few popular, dated movies that I actuly want to watch, that leaves me wondering what the point of the subscription is.

Finally the worst of all, cancelling. I went to cancel online to find I could not! You have to call their 0800 number and wait on hold to reach one of their CSRs just to cancel your account. What makes matters worse is if you cancel your subscription right away you lose all your remaining time! In my case I only signed up a few days ago, but was told if I cancel now I lose the rest of my month.


So overall I havent had all that plesent of an experience. I can forgive some issues and chalk it up to their launch, but I seem to have been hit left right and center. It's a real pitty as I want to support a service like this, but they have made it so hard.

I'm currently in no rush to go back.


Wow, tough crowd.

at least you gave it a good shot after signing up eh, just to see if things improved...and left some constructive criticism etc. Right?


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  Reply # 604085 2-Apr-2012 19:09 Send private message

lokhor: 

Yep number 1 reason they are going to fail is lack of content


Quiet an assumption!  A bit like saying the new video store down the road, which opened last week, is going to fail because it has not stocked its shelves yet.


Give it a chance.. 

 

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  Reply # 604087 2-Apr-2012 19:14 Send private message

Vorbis:

Wow, tough crowd.

at least you gave it a good shot after signing up eh, just to see if things improved...and left some constructive criticism etc. Right?



Well actully I did leave some constructive criticism over the phone. I fully believe in doing this as otherwise, how will they know?

As for giving it a good shot, I did use it a bit, well as much as I could really. Its hard to give it a "good shot" when the content is so lacking.

Also I wasnt trying to imply they wouldnt imrprove etc, I deliberately said ""so far" and put all my points in context. I just wanted to add my issues with the service to the discussion.

Hopefully they find this thread (maybe we should link them to it?).

Also im not gone yet, I was fully aware I have the rest of the month to go, I just like to cancel subscriptions that I am unlikely to continue before it reaches the end of the period in case it passes my mind. This however wasnt a option.

Lastly, Im left with the impression so much of this could have been avoided had they tested their site and systems before launch, or have a beta. There were so many, small silly issues.

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  Reply # 604089 2-Apr-2012 19:19 Send private message

ArcticSilver:
Vorbis:

Wow, tough crowd.

at least you gave it a good shot after signing up eh, just to see if things improved...and left some constructive criticism etc. Right?



Well actully I did leave some constructive criticism over the phone. I fully believe in doing this as otherwise, how will they know?

As for giving it a good shot, I did use it a bit, well as much as I could really. Its hard to give it a "good shot" when the content is so lacking.

Also I wasnt trying to imply they wouldnt imrprove etc, I deliberately said ""so far" and put all my points in context. I just wanted to online my issues with the service to add to the discussion.

Hopefully they find this thread (maybe we should link them to it?).

Also im not gone yet, I was fully aware I have the rest of the month to go, I just like to cancel subscriptions that I am unlikely to continue before it reaches the end of the period in case it passes my mind. This however wasnt a option.

Lastly, Im left with the impression so much of this could have been avoided had they tested their site and systems before launch, or have a beta. There were so many, small silly issues.


I do agree with some of the above, as first impressions count. My first impression was wow...where's the content? But I found maybe 20 or 30 movies I hadn't seen or wanted to rewatch and actually had a good laugh at Fawlty Towers with the Germans. Figured I couldn't get all that for $10 at the dvd store, so will wait the month and see how much new content is added.

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  Reply # 604125 2-Apr-2012 20:32 Send private message

ArcticSilver:
Vorbis:

Wow, tough crowd.

at least you gave it a good shot after signing up eh, just to see if things improved...and left some constructive criticism etc. Right?



Well actully I did leave some constructive criticism over the phone. I fully believe in doing this as otherwise, how will they know?

As for giving it a good shot, I did use it a bit, well as much as I could really. Its hard to give it a "good shot" when the content is so lacking.

Also I wasnt trying to imply they wouldnt imrprove etc, I deliberately said ""so far" and put all my points in context. I just wanted to add my issues with the service to the discussion.

Hopefully they find this thread (maybe we should link them to it?).

Also im not gone yet, I was fully aware I have the rest of the month to go, I just like to cancel subscriptions that I am unlikely to continue before it reaches the end of the period in case it passes my mind. This however wasnt a option.

Lastly, Im left with the impression so much of this could have been avoided had they tested their site and systems before launch, or have a beta. There were so many, small silly issues.


Test their systems? Isn't that what they have been doing in Australia for the last X years?

Content is king, early days but lack of HD and poor encoding will kill it as quick as lack of titles. As for not telling people what quality they are even going to get, and differentiating quality between different platforms, that is just unbelievable crap. Don't tell me it is a licensing issue that they can't send a decent bitrate to a computer, they whole thing is drm'd so what is the issue?

I mean we can all get very high quality 1080p or 720p h264 rips of every title that is on bluray and good h264 rips of every title that is on DVD. Usually with whatever audio ison the original disk (DTS/AC3 etc). Disk space is cheap. $16 a month buys a bit of extra bandwidth for torrent/newsgroup/rapidshare downloads. You know in advance what bitrate and encoding parameters are used. Disk space is cheap as chips. Like it or not that's what QF are competing with for a lot of users.

Oh and where is the 3D? Oh that's right, all their stuff is so old that the current crop of 3D (for what it is worth) isn't even there. Go to Demonoid and search for 3D SBS and you'll find plenty. Frame size might only be 1/2 the horizontal resolution, but they still ook pretty good.


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  Reply # 604132 2-Apr-2012 20:40 Send private message

I'm starting to get frustrated (not the word i had initially) at all the references to the local DVD store down the road I thought being on GZ would be a good indication of some intelligence man at times I surely do wonder.

The local video store down the road may have a vastly superior catalogue but lets be realistic they pay $10 - $40 for each item they have and charge you every time you get it out. Now we're not talking about that are we people we're talking about unlimited streaming rights I don't think any studio in there right mind are gonna just hand that over for the same price per title.

I agree wholeheartedly there's a lot of room for improvement and of course it could have worked better on opening day. For me when I go to the local DVD store I see the same as what I see on QF a lot of stuff I'd not watch with some I have and a lot of stuff I would gladly pay a little bit more to watch The local video shoip is this a quick trip out of the house in my car down to the video shop and then hope that's there's something there I'd like to watch.

Statistically around half of the households in NZ have Sky at a bare minimum 3 - 4 times the price of what QF offers but what do I see if I look through the guide lots of stuff I won't watch mixed with a little I will. Same with the video shop and same with QF. Sky offered very little when they launched compared to now but I bet there was plenty of people who were willing to sign up without all the complaining at the time as they offered something you weren't getting already. QF does exactly that offer something your not able to get here legitimately and over time they will get better, they will add more content and more options as to how we can access it. How about all you fans of the local video store jump in your car and pop on down to ask them if you can watch as many older movies you like in a month for the same price as your QF subscription then come back herre and tell us all how many titles you were able to get them to agree to.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as am I but why go on about how they fail before they're even given a chance to get started properly. This is why I hate the way things are now everyone is so impatient and want everything yesterday and if they can't get it all they'll do is complain (myself included at times too lol).



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  Reply # 604179 2-Apr-2012 21:47 Send private message

I'm going to stick my 2 cents in here about Quickflix and New Zealanders attitude towards it. 

For a start it seems that kiwi's are turning into the proverbial poms if you will excuse my use of that word.
It seems to be whinge whinge whinge.  Now for some time, New Zealanders have wanted a service like Netflix, so we finally get one. And as of yet, I haven't signed up, but in the future I plan to.  But all I am seeing is - "there isn't enough content" "streaming is blocky" etc etc. 

How many things though start out being perfect? Was the XT network perfect on startup? Is your ISP perfect?

Quickflix didn't have to bring their service here, but they did. They now provide another option for watching TV shows and Movies albeit a bit limited at this present point in time.  Yes they could provide more, and from what I have read on Facebook they will be.  Is there teething problems? From what I have read, I would say definitely.  But all these things can be fixed.

Do we want Netflix to pack their bags and disappear for good? No.  How about instead of moaning about the service which isn't really that old yet, we all be patient and wait for them to fix their problems and grow into a service that in the future New Zealanders wont be able to do without? 




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  Reply # 604212 2-Apr-2012 22:47 Send private message

semigeek: I'm going to stick my 2 cents in here about Quickflix and New Zealanders attitude towards it. 

For a start it seems that kiwi's are turning into the proverbial poms if you will excuse my use of that word.
It seems to be whinge whinge whinge.  Now for some time, New Zealanders have wanted a service like Netflix, so we finally get one. And as of yet, I haven't signed up, but in the future I plan to.  But all I am seeing is - "there isn't enough content" "streaming is blocky" etc etc. 

How many things though start out being perfect? Was the XT network perfect on startup? Is your ISP perfect?

Quickflix didn't have to bring their service here, but they did. They now provide another option for watching TV shows and Movies albeit a bit limited at this present point in time.  Yes they could provide more, and from what I have read on Facebook they will be.  Is there teething problems? From what I have read, I would say definitely.  But all these things can be fixed.

Do we want Netflix to pack their bags and disappear for good? No.  How about instead of moaning about the service which isn't really that old yet, we all be patient and wait for them to fix their problems and grow into a service that in the future New Zealanders wont be able to do without? 


Interesting view.  No disrespect intended, but are you a Kiwi or an Aussie? 

Each to his own view of course, but I think it's fair to say that Kiwi's do perhaps have higher expectations of a company actually delivering on what it promises.  As a Kiwi myself, I personally think many of the points raised here have been fair and valid criticisms. This business launched itself with a claim of Unlimited Movies for $9.99 a month, then charged you $18.49 by adding an non-disclosed $8.50 admin fee, and then provided only a catalog of 373 movies that deliver significantly lower quality than DVD (a 0.79GB movie, not unexpectedly looks very soft & blurry on a modern TV).  There is a case here to question if they are actually delivering a service that lives up to their promise.

semigeek: New Zealanders have wanted a service like Netflix, so we finally get one. 


I'm not sure QuickFlix, as it has been launched in NZ, can be considered an equivalent to Netflix.

 semigeek: How many things though start out being perfect? Was the XT network perfect on startup? 


I don't think anyone is expecting them to start out perfect?  However most people would expect a business to launch a service that is reasonably competent and polished.  A business of this type launching with hype that is not fulfilled with adequate launch content (both quantity & quality), and with just the vague promise of greater things to come, is not a good formula for launch success in anyones book.
 

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