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Topic # 76166 29-Jan-2011 15:43 Send private message

Has anyone signed up with them recently and if so, whats their network service like ie. video streaming (up to 720p) download speeds, gaming etc etc. I watch a lot of internet tv so I'm looking for an ISP that gives good, consistent streaming from the US. Would be good to hear your experience to date, cheers Smile




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  Reply # 444176 28-Feb-2011 16:28 Send private message

Just got a flyer in my Univeristy of Auckland student pack with pricing for the 100gb Naked DSL plan. If these guys are any good, pretty damn keen to make the jump!!!

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  Reply # 444177 28-Feb-2011 16:29 Send private message


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  Reply # 445190 3-Mar-2011 15:21 Send private message

I just changed to NZNet. Very disappointed - I'm getting dialup level speeds in the afternoon. Have a download from Apple currently in the background going at 60KB/sec, using VPN into my network at work I get 1.4MB/sec (my line limit). It looks like NZNet are just reselling Hosting Directs ADSL service based off the trace routes.

1  router (192.168.1.1)  1742.475 ms  0.449 ms  0.403 ms 
2  dsl-router (192.168.2.1)  1.635 ms  1.236 ms  1.163 ms 
3  60.234.6.3 (60.234.6.3)  47.956 ms  52.810 ms  31.871 ms 
4  60.234.20.249 (60.234.20.249)  30.411 ms  30.173 ms  30.097 ms 
5  60.234.20.250 (60.234.20.250)  31.833 ms  31.172 ms  30.244 ms 
6  hd-bdr1.hostingdirect.co.nz (60.234.66.129)  47.300 ms  30.600 ms *
7  xe-1-0-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.13)  30.899 ms  30.574 ms * 
8  121.99.12.0 (121.99.12.0)  50.668 ms  32.679 ms  49.601 ms 
9  orc-0015.gw1.akl1.asianetcom.net (203.192.167.66)  32.753 ms *  48.400 ms
10  gi10-0-0-402.gw1.akl1.asianetcom.net (203.192.167.65)  35.911 ms

Based off this I would be weary of the service offered by Hosting Direct as well. Though if you are trying to decide between NZNet and Hosting Direct, seems like NZNet are just putting a premium on top of the Hosting Direct price and offering no other benefits, so may as well go with Hosting Direct. 

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  Reply # 445196 3-Mar-2011 15:50 Send private message

jaredwatts: I just changed to NZNet. Very disappointed - I'm getting dialup level speeds in the afternoon. Have a download from Apple currently in the background going at 60KB/sec, using VPN into my network at work I get 1.4MB/sec (my line limit). It looks like NZNet are just reselling Hosting Directs ADSL service based off the trace routes.[snip]


Could you please confirm that the 60KB/sec you refer to is what you are describing as 'dialup speed'?

If so, then you're getting about 10 times the speed of a good dialup connection during peak.

If you want fast speeds at all times of day, you won't get it from bargain basement providers unfortunately - I wish it was a different story.

Cheers - N

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  Reply # 445201 3-Mar-2011 15:55 Send private message

Yep... Dialup speeds would be a max of 56 Kbps (kilobits per second), with an average a lot lower than that.

Download speeds are reported as KB/s (kilobytes per second)... Taking in consideration the averages, etc, 60 KB/s is ten times more than an average dialup connection would give you.

This is a common misunderstanding when people don't differentiate KB and Kb...





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  Reply # 445205 3-Mar-2011 16:04 Send private message

I apologise for being emotive with the "dial-up" speed comment. Let me rephrase that.

"I'm getting speeds around the range of 8-9 dialup modems working in tandem, each of which are operating at 56Kbps."

Yes, I understand the difference between KB/sec and Kbps. Like I said, I was being more emotive than anything. When you see your connection operating at 4% of the capacity you know it is capable of - it feels like dial-up.Getting loads of dropped connections as well.

All in all the main message I was trying to get across was to avoid them if you actually want to use the internet in the afternoons / peak time. Off-peak I have no issues at all with the speed they provide. On-peak is a completely different matter.



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  Reply # 445216 3-Mar-2011 16:44 Send private message

hmmmm....I rang them up and grilled them about their video streaming ability and of course like any salesman on the phone, they are going to say, 'no problem their Sir' so I think customer feedback is much more valuable information at the moment.




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  Reply # 445493 4-Mar-2011 13:29 Send private message

Glad I didn't take up their offer then! Cool

Some guy from NZNet PM'ed me and offered the service, I kindly refused after reading this thread and said "It leaves a lot to be desired"...

So now on the hunt for a fast, well priced (I'm happy to spend the money) and large data cap provider!

Chris

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  Reply # 445515 4-Mar-2011 14:36 Send private message

jaredwatts: 
Based off this I would be weary of the service offered by Hosting Direct as well. Though if you are trying to decide between NZNet and Hosting Direct, seems like NZNet are just putting a premium on top of the Hosting Direct price and offering no other benefits, so may as well go with Hosting Direct. 


So does that mean it's NZNet reselling HD reselling Orcon reselling Telecom wholesale.... that's quite bizzare.

Alot of small ISP's do start out as virtual ISP's until they have enough customers and their own systems in place to handle billing/support etc.

Can you post some more tracerts, eg
trademe.co.nz
us.battle.net
 

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  Reply # 445517 4-Mar-2011 14:43 Send private message

traceroute to trademe.co.nz (202.162.72.2), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 router (192.168.1.1) 1472.181 ms 0.863 ms 0.922 ms
2 dsl-router (192.168.2.1) 4.309 ms 1.484 ms 2.889 ms
3 60.234.6.3 (60.234.6.3) 87.720 ms 52.832 ms 66.172 ms
4 60.234.20.249 (60.234.20.249) 78.554 ms 63.954 ms 81.815 ms
5 60.234.20.250 (60.234.20.250) 78.288 ms 46.976 ms 51.436 ms
6 hd-bdr1.hostingdirect.co.nz (60.234.66.129) 43.883 ms 30.606 ms 43.057 ms
7 ge-0-0-0-222.cre2.wgt.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.54) 56.649 ms 47.554 ms 49.030 ms
8 trademe.wix.net.nz (202.7.1.67) 68.564 ms 55.718 ms 78.449 ms
9 www.trademe.co.nz (202.162.72.2) 77.518 ms 53.231 ms 52.481 ms

traceroute to us.battle.net (12.129.242.40), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 router (192.168.1.1) 0.886 ms 0.416 ms 0.617 ms
2 dsl-router (192.168.2.1) 2.026 ms 2.270 ms 2.027 ms
3 60.234.6.3 (60.234.6.3) 75.385 ms 33.260 ms 31.783 ms
4 60.234.20.249 (60.234.20.249) 36.247 ms 49.044 ms 65.930 ms
5 60.234.20.250 (60.234.20.250) 46.890 ms 42.802 ms 69.493 ms
6 hd-bdr1.hostingdirect.co.nz (60.234.66.129) 85.411 ms 35.789 ms 35.511 ms
7 xe-1-0-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.13) 66.256 ms 43.567 ms 43.030 ms
8 121.99.12.0 (121.99.12.0) 53.134 ms 52.205 ms 50.414 ms
9 orc-0015.gw1.akl1.asianetcom.net (203.192.167.66) 33.143 ms 38.587 ms 58.083 ms
10 gi10-0-0-402.gw1.akl1.asianetcom.net (203.192.167.65) 49.662 ms 52.428 ms 71.516 ms
11 ge-0-0-0-0.gw1.akl2.asianetcom.net (203.192.185.45) 56.650 ms 68.477 ms 52.365 ms
12 po1-1-0.gw3.lax1.asianetcom.net (203.192.185.62) 160.688 ms 169.202 ms 179.478 ms
13 tengigabitethernet1-2.ar5.lax2.gblx.net (64.215.81.145) 191.614 ms 171.844 ms 192.469 ms
14 192.205.37.93 (192.205.37.93) 188.778 ms 169.917 ms 181.339 ms
15 cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.123.30.190) 191.993 ms * 191.206 ms
16 cr84.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.123.30.249) 167.201 ms
cr83.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.123.30.109) 184.921 ms
cr84.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.123.30.249) 201.622 ms
17 gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.128.25) 180.681 ms 176.479 ms
gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.129.25) 176.495 ms
18 12.122.255.74 (12.122.255.74) 167.871 ms 177.758 ms 184.541 ms
19 mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net (12.129.193.242) 212.434 ms 190.160 ms 200.909 ms
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  Reply # 445518 4-Mar-2011 14:45 Send private message

If AsiaNetCom is the international transit provider, you know you are going to have some serious issues!

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  Reply # 445526 4-Mar-2011 15:02 Send private message

Maybe this is not a issue with NZNet.

I am with vodafone and the last 4 of 5 days can only get max 200kb/s international. Same with my other friend on vodafone, and my other friend on orcon.


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  Reply # 445529 4-Mar-2011 15:06 Send private message

athor: Maybe this is not a issue with NZNet.

I am with vodafone and the last 4 of 5 days can only get max 200kb/s international. Same with my other friend on vodafone, and my other friend on orcon.




Why would you post that in this topic?? 

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  Reply # 445541 4-Mar-2011 15:31 Send private message

umm... because there are people saying they have slow speeds with nznet, where as the issue may not be with them but with international traffic in general ?

Seeing as I know of 3 separate isps that are having super slow international speeds?

thought I explained that in my first post well enough.

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  Reply # 445550 4-Mar-2011 15:52 Send private message

Correlation does not equal causation, There are SOOOO many factors in International speed




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