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Topic # 84903 10-Jun-2011 12:27 Send private message

Source - http://delimiter.com.au/2011/06/07/telstra-doubles-bundled-data-quotas/

Plan examples - http://www.internode.on.net/residential/adsl_broadband/easy_broadband/  http://www.iinet.net.au/broadband/plans.html  
1 Tb of data, now thats a cap.




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  Reply # 479706 10-Jun-2011 13:12 Send private message

Meanwhile in NZ I can't get a business ADSL plan from telecom with more than 60GB...




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  Reply # 479829 10-Jun-2011 18:30 Send private message

Noodles: Meanwhile in NZ I can't get a business ADSL plan from telecom with more than 60GB...


Our minimum baby data cap should be 60GB, it's like this country is stuck in 2005 with technology lol




 

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  Reply # 479877 10-Jun-2011 20:26 Send private message

brandonruscoe:
Noodles: Meanwhile in NZ I can't get a business ADSL plan from telecom with more than 60GB...


Our minimum baby data cap should be 60GB, it's like this country is stuck in 2005 with technology lol


That's still close to 10 times the average usage for  NZ customer. Surely that would mean monthly charges for these people would simply increase?

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  Reply # 479886 10-Jun-2011 20:47 Send private message

sbiddle:
brandonruscoe:
Noodles: Meanwhile in NZ I can't get a business ADSL plan from telecom with more than 60GB...


Our minimum baby data cap should be 60GB, it's like this country is stuck in 2005 with technology lol


That's still close to 10 times the average usage for  NZ customer. Surely that would mean monthly charges for these people would simply increase?


They shouldn't charge us more, look at aussie, they got way way bigger data caps for the same price!  The people that only use say 6gb a month don't know what the internet offers, we are so behind compared to the rest of the world in internet.




 

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  Reply # 479905 10-Jun-2011 21:25 Send private message

Perhaps if we had more bandwidth options physically coming in and out of NZ we'd be able to have a comparable service. But until such time we're stuck.

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  Reply # 479907 10-Jun-2011 21:26 Send private message

I lol every time I see threads like this. Due to the current state of wholesale access costs, national/international transit and low buying power of NZ ISPs they cannot offer plans anywhere like this. Maybe with the UFB and Pacific Fibre it will be easier.





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  Reply # 479917 10-Jun-2011 21:46 Send private message



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  Reply # 479975 11-Jun-2011 07:58 Send private message

brandonruscoe:
sbiddle:
brandonruscoe:
Noodles: Meanwhile in NZ I can't get a business ADSL plan from telecom with more than 60GB...


Our minimum baby data cap should be 60GB, it's like this country is stuck in 2005 with technology lol


That's still close to 10 times the average usage for  NZ customer. Surely that would mean monthly charges for these people would simply increase?


They shouldn't charge us more, look at aussie, they got way way bigger data caps for the same price!  The people that only use say 6gb a month don't know what the internet offers, we are so behind compared to the rest of the world in internet.


Have you ever actually looked at global stats?

AT&T introduced new 150GB caps on most of their plans a few weeks ago, and said average monthly usage for it's DSL customers was 18GB per month. In the same press release they quoted Cisco as saying global average internet usage per month is 15GB.

Plans like these cater to the top few % of users who spend all day downloading P2P material. They do not represent the usage habits of the average user.

What exactly would your breakdown of usage be in a month if a 500GB option was available to you?




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  Reply # 479976 11-Jun-2011 08:31

Someone should attatch the internet is for porn video... Unless you are running some kind of media server; these huge caps aren't really needed.




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  Reply # 479979 11-Jun-2011 09:00 Send private message

sbiddle:
brandonruscoe:
sbiddle:
brandonruscoe:
Noodles: Meanwhile in NZ I can't get a business ADSL plan from telecom with more than 60GB...


Our minimum baby data cap should be 60GB, it's like this country is stuck in 2005 with technology lol


That's still close to 10 times the average usage for  NZ customer. Surely that would mean monthly charges for these people would simply increase?


They shouldn't charge us more, look at aussie, they got way way bigger data caps for the same price!  The people that only use say 6gb a month don't know what the internet offers, we are so behind compared to the rest of the world in internet.


Have you ever actually looked at global stats?

AT&T introduced new 150GB caps on most of their plans a few weeks ago, and said average monthly usage for it's DSL customers was 18GB per month. In the same press release they quoted Cisco as saying global average internet usage per month is 15GB.

Plans like these cater to the top few % of users who spend all day downloading P2P material. They do not represent the usage habits of the average user.

What exactly would your breakdown of usage be in a month if a 500GB option was available to you?




I can easily chew through 60GB a month without torrenting anything.
A breakdown of my usage would be iTunes Purchases, Steam Game Purchases (sometimes upto 20GB a game) HD Youtube, watching Live Video Streams, surfing the web etc.  Updating my machines with the latest software, Mac App Store etc.  It all adds up.




 

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  Reply # 479983 11-Jun-2011 09:45 Send private message

What's cheap in NZ compare to the rest of the world? I can't name a thing

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  Reply # 479998 11-Jun-2011 10:32 Send private message

SteveON: Someone should attatch the internet is for porn video... Unless you are running some kind of media server; these huge caps aren't really needed.


There are plenty of legitimate uses - what I'm interested in is to see what people see as uses for these large caps.

The simple reality is most people who want large caps for a low price want it solely for downloading copyrighted P2P content. When do they actually get the time to watch their collection of 1000 movies? Or is it simply about bragging rights?

This isn't to say legitimate uses don't exist. The simple biggest use is legitimate entertainment downloads, and this is the reason that we'll see more and more ISP's offering zero rated access to content such as iTunes which is delivered from CDN's.

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  Reply # 480022 11-Jun-2011 12:05 Send private message

I'd love to be able to spend a day or 2 a week watching HD youtube or stream the highest quality music I could find. I have a fairly high cap, but after a few steam updates and maybe a new game a month this is gone. I also have the mrs streaming her media (ZM and vids) and a 7yo who plays games online. It all adds up. When I ran a game server years ago it was 80g a month just for that!
Plus there's my linux updates and all the other crap I play with... I know I wouldn't use a TB but 150 - 200GB would be a safe place where I didn't have to worry.
I know TCL probably do that amount, but not in my budget.


edit: I wish we had BBC iPlayer too.. would waste some hours on that!
mrs just informed me she watches Desperate Houswives from tv on demand

Ever tried getting a tv off 2 children on a rainy weekend?

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  Reply # 480035 11-Jun-2011 12:53 Send private message

Those who can't imagine the uses for larger data caps on ISP plans simply show their ignorance and lack of imagination.

I understand that 500GB and 1TB plans are not going to be the most common plans but for those that want them then _they should be there_ at a reasonable price. At the moment they aren't.

Also, just as the road speed limit isn't a target; neither are the ISP data caps. Some people would love to be able to purchase a 500GB plan and know they would use a maximum of, say, 300GB per month but have the peace of mind knowing that they won't ever receive a huge bill at the end of the month after chewing through data charged per GB. They wouldn't want to buy a 300GB plan as it cuts it too close to their perceived monthly usage.

I am tired of the people ranting on about large data users as only being copyright infringing p2p users, the fact of the matter is that is no longer the truth. Anyone with a large tech-savvy family or group of flatmates can chew through several hundred GB per month in completely normal and legitimate usage. In fact I have to carefully monitor my flat of four's 200GB cap usage because we come very close every single month.



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  Reply # 480041 11-Jun-2011 13:04 Send private message

1080p: Those who can't imagine the uses for larger data caps on ISP plans simply show their ignorance and lack of imagination.

I understand that 500GB and 1TB plans are not going to be the most common plans but for those that want them then _they should be there_ at a reasonable price. At the moment they aren't.

Also, just as the road speed limit isn't a target; neither are the ISP data caps. Some people would love to be able to purchase a 500GB plan and know they would use a maximum of, say, 300GB per month but have the peace of mind knowing that they won't ever receive a huge bill at the end of the month after chewing through data charged per GB. They wouldn't want to buy a 300GB plan as it cuts it too close to their perceived monthly usage.

I am tired of the people ranting on about large data users as only being copyright infringing p2p users, the fact of the matter is that is no longer the truth. Anyone with a large tech-savvy family or group of flatmates can chew through several hundred GB per month in completely normal and legitimate usage. In fact I have to carefully monitor my flat of four's 200GB cap usage because we come very close every single month.


+1 well said, for me being a heavy media streaming user, as well as hosting a community Teamspeak3 server, would love to be able to purchase a several hundred gb data plan that even if I didn't use all of, at least I would never have to worry about exceeding.




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