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  Reply # 762679 14-Feb-2013 22:27 Send private message

I've been using win8 and office 2013 on my workstation and while I don't think much of windows 8, office 2013 is not much different to 2010 with a different appearance and could have been a service pack or theme pack to get us used to the 365 look and feel.

Anyone who's used office 365 will understand what MS is trying to do, however its a little ahead of its time as not everyone wants to shunt everything off into the cloud, or should I call it the Azure.

Office 2013 does appear to play slightly better with Sharepoint though, and if you did call MS I'm sure they'll allow you a second activation if you call them, just like they have always done for windows.

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  Reply # 762683 14-Feb-2013 22:40 Send private message

networkn:
I am about 80% sure, that being a MS reseller you are required to agree to accept returns on software which has not been installed because the end user doesn't accept the EULA, I believe you can also approach MS directly for that refund.


It's probably one of those situations where they will refuse the refund instore, and you have to contact their management for the refund, which is a hassle. Being a MS reseller they should have it in their terms that microsoft software is returnable if you don't agree to the EULA. Or they could give the person a copy of the EULA to read instore prior to purchase and agree to it before handing over their money. The thing is that the EULAs are so long and complex that most people don't read them, and if they do, they will take a long time to go through properly.

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  Reply # 764040 18-Feb-2013 11:10 Send private message

freitasm: My Office 2010 on Windows 7 makes me perfectly happy...


I'm still using 2003 - as it is quicker to get to the settings - hate the new office and most of my clients find it hard to do what uased to be simple ....

With access dev especailly much easier.

Works well with addo nos to read 2007 / 2010.






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  Reply # 764077 18-Feb-2013 11:45 Send private message

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freitasm: My Office 2010 on Windows 7 makes me perfectly happy...


I'm still using 2003 - as it is quicker to get to the settings - hate the new office and most of my clients find it hard to do what uased to be simple ....

With access dev especailly much easier.

Works well with addo nos to read 2007 / 2010.




I agree 2003 is much simpler to use.  I upgraded to 2010 when I got my new Ultrabook and while some features of 2010 are "nice" there's nothing that makes it any better than 2003.

I cannot figure out why the "ïmproved" version is so retarded in some areas.  Do the developers not do any market research?




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  Reply # 764108 18-Feb-2013 12:22 Send private message

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nunz:
freitasm: My Office 2010 on Windows 7 makes me perfectly happy...


I'm still using 2003 - as it is quicker to get to the settings - hate the new office and most of my clients find it hard to do what uased to be simple ....

With access dev especailly much easier.

Works well with addo nos to read 2007 / 2010.




I agree 2003 is much simpler to use.  I upgraded to 2010 when I got my new Ultrabook and while some features of 2010 are "nice" there's nothing that makes it any better than 2003.

I cannot figure out why the "ïmproved" version is so retarded in some areas.  Do the developers not do any market research?


NOPE!

 Six words - Windows 8 on a 2012 Server

what idiot decided to put a touch screen interface on a server and hide basic actions such as getting to control panels etc under slides, clicks and movements on the screen

Servers are meant to be mean and lean, nto full of widgets and crud that slow them down, add security openings and make life slower for an admin.

Grrrr!!!!!

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  Reply # 764136 18-Feb-2013 13:03 Send private message

freitasm:
Not every company in the world changes computers at the same pace as technology companies.


Not every tech company does either.

(I'm looking at you Telecom!) :P

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  Reply # 764172 18-Feb-2013 14:12 Send private message

nunz:
Servers are meant to be mean and lean, nto full of widgets and crud that slow them down, add security openings and make life slower for an admin.


In Server 2012 isn't the GUI is entirely optional?




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  Reply # 764191 18-Feb-2013 14:44 Send private message

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nunz:
Servers are meant to be mean and lean, nto full of widgets and crud that slow them down, add security openings and make life slower for an admin.


In Server 2012 isn't the GUI is entirely optional?


That's turning the GUI off completely and using command line (someithng I do on all my Linux servers) but in a windows server getting to the widgets such as Active Director, Server Manager, Exchange Manager, Temrinal session maangers etc requires a gui.

THe 2003 style gui allowed you to put shortcuts on the desktop (and lots of them, you didnt have to slide to the edge to get tool bars, start menu etc, control panel was easy to get to and there were less resources dedicated to running gui / widgets and animations.

2010 was a cool interface for adding search bar in the start menu (I had already hacked my path and added batch files in all my WinXP, Server 2003 Os to do this)  but again added clicks for simple functions. Try geting to network connections to enable or disable as quickly is one example.

The new Os interface beimng Windows 8 style adds even more layers of crud such as sliding to a screen corner to get the start menu / bar up. Heck , before I just used tolook down ....








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