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  Reply # 769019 25-Feb-2013 16:58 Send private message

DravidDavid:I have a Nokia splash followed with the Windows boot logo for 7.8.

I have however found the official origin with my phone based on the 059 number on the SIM card tray.  Mine is 059M5P6, which apparently means it is licensed in Taiwan.  Must be associated with some Taiwanese carrier then?

No idea how this would effect update roll out.  If anything I should have received the update sooner as the updates would have been rolled out in that country before here.  If I remember correctly, the last major update was available there long before any NZ carrier approved it for release.


Could be to do with what region your Microsoft Account (and hence Zune) is set on.
Your phone is registered as Taiwanese but Zune is registered as an NZ installation. (Just a wild guess)

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  Reply # 770097 25-Feb-2013 20:59 Send private message

nathan: Just to be clear guys, what you're doing with this disconnect method is put your phone to the front of the queue

you're phone would've still got the update, but this one is staged out over 3 weeks

i hear you that you think this is crazy trickery, but there is a method to this 'madness' ;)


Still waiting for an update...

Jon

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  Reply # 770104 25-Feb-2013 21:11 Send private message

Jon what make model do you, where is it from, what is the OS and firmware versions please

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  Reply # 770208 26-Feb-2013 00:18 Send private message

Jon ill let you know when the update will be available for your phone

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  Reply # 770210 26-Feb-2013 00:19 Send private message

Incindre:
DravidDavid:I have a Nokia splash followed with the Windows boot logo for 7.8.

I have however found the official origin with my phone based on the 059 number on the SIM card tray.  Mine is 059M5P6, which apparently means it is licensed in Taiwan.  Must be associated with some Taiwanese carrier then?

No idea how this would effect update roll out.  If anything I should have received the update sooner as the updates would have been rolled out in that country before here.  If I remember correctly, the last major update was available there long before any NZ carrier approved it for release.


Could be to do with what region your Microsoft Account (and hence Zune) is set on.
Your phone is registered as Taiwanese but Zune is registered as an NZ installation. (Just a wild guess)


MSA region doesn't come into it, its the carrier image installed on the phone when purchased

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  Reply # 770247 26-Feb-2013 07:33 Send private message

no update here - nokia lumia 800 on vodafone

i have stopped recommending windows phones to colleagues, not impressive at all

os: 7.10.8773.98
firmware: 1750.0805.8773.12220

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  Reply # 770355 26-Feb-2013 10:57 Send private message

Telecom Lumia 710

OS Version: 7.10.8773.98
Firmware: 1600.3031.8773.12121

BTW no one ever got back to me about Skydrive

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  Reply # 770368 26-Feb-2013 11:08 Send private message

Parallel imported Lumia 800

OS version: 7.10.8773.98
Firmware revision number: 1750.0805.8773.12220



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  Reply # 770893 27-Feb-2013 09:13 Send private message

I have not put much faith in the "roll out in three weeks" theory, and now this:


There were supposed to be four stages (or waves), but unfortunately the mobile operator has been unable to push out Windows Phone 7.8 to the majority of subscribers, leading to numerous requests for information on the matter. It's odd that the company would publicly point at Microsoft for delaying the update (though the team member in question could be incorrect), but here's the full post which was published:

"Here is the info about the update. Microsoft has stopped until further notice, the rollout of the update. Currently there is a new date for it."

Is there any truth in this? Who knows. Consumers obviously are the ones who get played around with this update strategy and fingers get pointed from one side to another...






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  Reply # 770896 27-Feb-2013 09:31 Send private message

Frustrating to say the least.

I believe as I said before this is a hangover from the original WP7 update debacle, it will be the risk managers/corporate office in MS not the dev teams delaying this.

Jon

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  Reply # 771322 27-Feb-2013 21:48 Send private message

What risk is there to manage? Are they worried about customers bro king their phones?





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  Reply # 771333 27-Feb-2013 22:13 Send private message

FTA:

"Updates are cumulative. If one [carrier] doesn't get their testing done in time, the next push date comes and it goes out then. Carriers could in fact block updates to sell you a phone. That can happen. But we don't expect that to happen. We are not going to push updates onto carrier networks that they have not tested. Microsoft is being very trusting of the carriers here. This is very different from the situation with Windows Mobile where every phone was very different. With Windows Phone, there is no impact on OEM code, network code, and so on. Yes, there are upgrades that will require a full test pass. But most will not."

This is what I was talking some pages before... Microsoft left too much for the telcos to control. And when they said "next push update comes and it goes out then" was really in their dreams. For example my LG WP7.5 had four updates to get from Mango to 7.8. All these were only offered/applied when 7.8 came out. None of the four updates were released until they pushed 7.8.

In reality if the telco had not approved 7.8 my phone could have missed those four updates altogether.

Not a good update story.





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  Reply # 771341 27-Feb-2013 22:20 Send private message

There is an issue with live tiles not updating with 7.8 which is why it has been halted. This is the reason why updates are released in batches to WP handsets so that not everyone gets affected by a bug. Sure the iPhone releases updates to everyone at the same time without carrier intervention but it breaks many things in almost all updates. iOS 6.1 has been a disaster.






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  Reply # 771343 27-Feb-2013 22:23 Send private message

There are many more Windows-based PCs around the world and everyone gets Windows Updates on the same date/time (every second Wednesday of the month 7am NZ time).

There's a problem with Live Tiles? Good, if they had a good update story they could easily issue an update for the next month and be done with it. The way updates are distributed and restricted by telcos those who already have the update with the bug might never get an update to fix it.

From the start, years ago, I said that Windows Phone updates should follow the same schedule as Windows Updates. Too obvious for those folks in Redmond to follow...




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