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Topic # 111836 16-Nov-2012 11:24 Send private message

Hi

I'm currrently planning for a retrofit for structured cabling in line with renovations (the walls aren't coming off), primarily Cat6 for ethernet. I'll primarily be wiring this myself.

My main question is what to use at home distribution location. My original plan was for using PDL style boxes flush mounted likely with quad jack face plates, I was using some of these in past albeit not flush mounted. (I'm aware 6 jack ones exist but from what I read installing the jacks can be rather difficult even more so I expect with thicker Cat6 cable.) For the 8 ports I'd need two, plug probably another box for the phone (using a splitter so one for voice, one for DSL) plus sat+antenna.

But it seems a common alternative is to get a patch panel, perhaps a 12 port one. While I've read some of these can be flush mounted, (at least some of the ones sold internationally can I'm not sure sure about the ones sold in NZ) am I right there's limited advantage in that case? It has slightly more expandability (presuming I get a 12 port) without adding another hole but doesn't necessarily look better. While it keeps things slightly closer together am I right the bigger reason for patch panels tends to be for wall mounted configs, particularly in cabinet or when you have a lot of ports (like 24 or more)?

Once fibre comes in I'd likely get this attached to a new flush mounted box (and since this is not something I can wire myself, changing it around starts to become questionable at that point) although according to Chorus that will be at least ~2.5 years away.

I'm aware of options for in wall mounted cabinets like the SigNet ST2000, but I'm not sure if that would work well for my situation. While you fit a switch, the ADSL modem inside these can just as well go in the cabinet I'm planning to have in front of the flush mounted boxes. (This can also fit a PVR and if needed a NAS or whatever else.)

Cheers

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  Reply # 718177 16-Nov-2012 11:24 Send private message


Some background: It's a 3 bedroom house and I'm planning to do a dual each in the 2 larger rooms and 2 duals in the smaller room (currently a bedroom but could also be an office) for a total of 8 ports. Not planning any RG6 to the bedrooms, this seems pointless to me. I much prefer a PVR style set up and really the primary reason it may be needed is because of stupid DRM restrictions requiring a dedicated STB for each TV which I don't consider worth worrying about particularly since I'm kind of getting sick of Sky considering the price. The home distribution point would be in the living room behind a cabinet albeit with resonably easy access. (The garage is detached and there's really no where else suitable.) I don't currently plan to put anything near the TV as it won't be that far from the cabinet. Anyway I don't really need any advice on that part, just adding it here for completeness.

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  Reply # 718223 16-Nov-2012 12:25 Send private message

Is there a cupboard you could put the gear in? Although at the moment yo may have just one router in future you may have the router, switch, ATA and maybe a NAS. So having a bit of room to spare might be handy.
Dynamix do a 12-port mini panel which I quite like but it is not really that 'pretty' so I would be hesitant to put it somewhere that might be visible.
2 outlets to each room sounds reasonable. HDMI over Cat 6 baluns are great. I have a pair that send the IR over the single Cat 6 aswell as the HDMI so you don't have to waste an outlet just to send the IR.
One thing to think of is a cable to a central location for a wireless AP. If you don't want to put a faceplate up high just stick a cable out the GIB and then get an AP that can hide the cable. Of course the cupboard could be central enough to just an AP in there.
Remember to get a couple of cables across to the point of entry of your current services as this will likely be the POE for UFB. Also be sure to put a power point at this point too for the ONT.

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  Reply # 719120 18-Nov-2012 19:13 Send private message

I would put an outlet at the TV if you want to hide the cables behind the TV, and especially if you want to enclose all the stuff in your distribution point in a cupboard or cabinet. Do try to find some kind of enclosure because there will be 8 patch cables in there and potentially alarms or other things that connect through the patch panel. The patch panel makes the whole thing more easily managed, and its definitely the way to go if you have 8 outlets to do. You may be able to get a flushmount cabinet if you don't have a suitable cupboard already.




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