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  Reply # 342897 18-Jun-2010 10:09 Send private message

cutecasper: Seriously, HOPE Vodafone or the Apple store here in NZ get it out in equivalent prices to USA market.

I am soooooooooo hoping! 


You really believe this is possible? Remember prices in the USA market do not include local/state tax. Then add our GST, import tax, margins, and there isn't a way to get the same prices. "Equivalent prices" mean all those added to the tag.





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  Reply # 342904 18-Jun-2010 10:16 Send private message

alasta:
rossmnz:It would be interesting just how much more an iPhone costs to produce than the equivalent iPod touch.



That's what I've often wondered. A GSM/3G radio, GPS module and camera must surely all be dirt cheap.


$178.96USD for an iphone 3gs.

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-3gs-costs-178-96-to-produce-claims-isuppli-2547938/

At the end of the day you're buying a product with a RRP of ~$1300 so its up to you to decide wheather you let VF subsidies the initial investment or not. You're forking over ~$1300 one way or another on top of whatever plan you do or don't decide to sign up to.

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  Reply # 342915 18-Jun-2010 10:36 Send private message

mattk:
alasta:
rossmnz:It would be interesting just how much more an iPhone costs to produce than the equivalent iPod touch.



That's what I've often wondered. A GSM/3G radio, GPS module and camera must surely all be dirt cheap.


$178.96USD for an iphone 3gs.

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-3gs-costs-178-96-to-produce-claims-isuppli-2547938/

At the end of the day you're buying a product with a RRP of ~$1300 so its up to you to decide wheather you let VF subsidies the initial investment or not. You're forking over ~$1300 one way or another on top of whatever plan you do or don't decide to sign up to.


Well put.  VF have a cost to recover and margin to make.  Either they offer cheap phones on expensive plans or expensive phones on reasonable plans.

Question someone might know the answer to.  I got a 3g on 2 year contract and know I paid a "premium" in each monthly payment.  That 2 years is up and the monthly payments are the same.  Am I getting ripped?  Shouldn't the monthly plan thiny drop once the contract is up, or do they just assume you will get a new phone every 2 years?

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  Reply # 342917 18-Jun-2010 10:38 Send private message

freitasm:
cutecasper:?Seriously, HOPE Vodafone or the Apple store here in NZ get it out in equivalent prices to USA market.

I am soooooooooo hoping!?


You really believe this is possible? Remember prices in the USA market do not include local/state tax. Then add our GST, import tax, margins, and there isn't a way to get the same prices. "Equivalent prices" mean all those added to the tag.



Then i'd rather buy the phone from US and get it cracked.... hahahaa!



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  Reply # 342930 18-Jun-2010 11:04 Send private message

nudge:
mattk:
alasta:
rossmnz:It would be interesting just how much more an iPhone costs to produce than the equivalent iPod touch.



That's what I've often wondered. A GSM/3G radio, GPS module and camera must surely all be dirt cheap.


$178.96USD for an iphone 3gs.

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-3gs-costs-178-96-to-produce-claims-isuppli-2547938/

At the end of the day you're buying a product with a RRP of ~$1300 so its up to you to decide wheather you let VF subsidies the initial investment or not. You're forking over ~$1300 one way or another on top of whatever plan you do or don't decide to sign up to.


Well put.  VF have a cost to recover and margin to make.  Either they offer cheap phones on expensive plans or expensive phones on reasonable plans.


If this is the case then why are VFNZs plans so absurbly priced and so pitifully featured in comparison to ones from australian Telcos?

And why is the iPhone so much more subsidised there?

I wouldnt mind paying a decent whack if the contract is decent but the iPhone plans are pretty pitiful.

On the other hand i wouldnt mind paying around the US prices with these crap contracts and just pay extra fees for more data, minutes etc.

To be honest i just dont buy the "it costs more here" from vodafone.

In my opinion, they see the iPhone as a cash cow to be milked.  This is fine in moderation but in comparison to other Telcos internationally it is just poor.

Lets hope this doesnt get moderated out and we get some pertinent discussion on why the kiwi consumer is getting shafted.





The force is strong with this one!

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  Reply # 342942 18-Jun-2010 11:24 Send private message



If this is the case then why are VFNZs plans so absurbly priced and so pitifully featured in comparison to ones from australian Telcos?

And why is the iPhone so much more subsidised there?

I wouldnt mind paying a decent whack if the contract is decent but the iPhone plans are pretty pitiful.

On the other hand i wouldnt mind paying around the US prices with these crap contracts and just pay extra fees for more data, minutes etc.

To be honest i just dont buy the "it costs more here" from vodafone.

In my opinion, they see the iPhone as a cash cow to be milked.  This is fine in moderation but in comparison to other Telcos internationally it is just poor.

Lets hope this doesnt get moderated out and we get some pertinent discussion on why the kiwi consumer is getting shafted.


When Vodafone initially announced they were getting the iphone I remember they described it as a 'premium' product and it would be priced as such.

Pretty simple really, in AU there's more than one telco with it and they're all fighting for customers. Over here VF and TC just sit in their castles and just capitalise on each others stuff ups.

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  Reply # 342966 18-Jun-2010 12:05 Send private message

Who's the equivilent of Paul Brislen at Telecom, I note the distinct lack of someone who spins bullsh*t for them..

I'm sure we'll, yet again, be "surprised" by VF's pricing... 

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  Reply # 343599 21-Jun-2010 01:51 Send private message

Expansys is selling the 16 gb for just over $1250.. Excluding gst.. and shipping.. My guess is vodafone's pricing will reflect this

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  Reply # 345314 25-Jun-2010 18:00 Send private message

I was looking on the vodafone site at the iphone plans and noted that it said "All iPhone plans will enjoy 3GB of data and 1000 PXTs per month until until 1 July 2010"

guess that means new plans will be announced soon





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  Reply # 345318 25-Jun-2010 18:10 Send private message

It cracked me up how the VF crew were still pushing that promotion so hard when it barely had a month left to run on it, also unsure how i'd get the time (or interest) to send 30+ pxt's a day...

merve0o0: I was looking on the vodafone site at the iphone plans and noted that it said "All iPhone plans will enjoy 3GB of data and 1000 PXTs per month until until 1 July 2010"

guess that means new plans will be announced soon

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  Reply # 345802 27-Jun-2010 17:11 Send private message

teihoata: Expansys is selling the 16 gb for just over $1250.. Excluding gst.. and shipping.. My guess is vodafone's pricing will reflect this


Is anyone else considering Japan as an option.  Their 16gb iphone 4 is 46,080 yen or $728 nzd - no contract, no carrier limits.

ATM vodfone is selling the 3gs 16gb on a $80 month plan for 2 years for $699.  I doubt they would sell the new phones any cheaper than the 3gs, which makes the buying outright through Japan look fairly attractive.

I have a mate in Japan, gets back to NZ 1 July, I'll see if he can get me one.  Would be kinda cool to be one of the first :-)

Not sure what supply is like in JP tho... here hoping.


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  Reply # 346600 30-Jun-2010 11:52 Send private message

Id consider Japan.

Do you have a link to those JPN prices/info?  

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  Reply # 346630 30-Jun-2010 13:13 Send private message

I'd like to see the iPhone 4 priced thus:

16GB - $1.50

32GB - $3.00

Two year contract, 3gb data per month, 1000 txt, 1 free best mate, 200 pxts, free facetime via 3G @ $12.95 per month.

I think this is fair and reasonable. I am also planning on winning Lotto one day and freeing the world of famine and pestilence.




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  Reply # 346634 30-Jun-2010 13:26 Send private message

Handsomedan: I'd like to see the iPhone 4 priced thus:

16GB - $1.50

32GB - $3.00

Two year contract, 3gb data per month, 1000 txt, 1 free best mate, 200 pxts, free facetime via 3G @ $12.95 per month.

I think this is fair and reasonable. I am also planning on winning Lotto one day and freeing the world of famine and pestilence.


Even if VF met you half way i'd join them AND stop bagging them to everyone I meet.

TBH i'm glad they're just a telco and not involved in any form of government whatsoever. 

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  Reply # 346664 30-Jun-2010 14:20 Send private message

i will be really surprised if the prices arent the same (or +- $100) as the original iphone 3g prices when they came out

$799 with 2 year contract $80 a month
$1399 for just the phone.

i wont be upgrading straight away, the reception issues need to be sorted, "hold it different or buy a case" isnt really good enough.

ill get the iPad (probably 32gb 3g model) and keep my iphone 3g for now, my contract ends july 12, so ill just wait and see.

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