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  Reply # 461715 23-Apr-2011 07:34 Send private message

wilt64:
hdinsider: The biggest problem with showing this in HD would be the linking costs. HD costs approximately four times what SD costs to get here. There is nowhere further in the world than NZ from the wedding...

Good news though, the SD pictures should look really good. Much of it will be shot in HD and as the main wedding broadcast is a pool feed, the broadcasters will have mostly the same footage.

I'm looking forward to comparing the technical quality of TV1 and TV3 on the night.



I think you will find the overall picture quality will be better on TV3, MediaWorks seem to put a bit more effort into the technical side of things...lets face it who was the first to go Nicam Stereo, who was the first to go 16:9 wide screen who was the first to go AC3 and HD!!


TVNZ had NICAM stereo on CH2 in Auckland(1989) before TV3 launched.TV3 had NICAM at all transmitters at launch. It took TVNZ a long time to expand the service ( I think Wellington had NICAM but not real stereo sound for some time).  

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  Reply # 461734 23-Apr-2011 09:43 Send private message

wilt64: Hey silly question but can anyone confirm will the royal wedding televised next Friday be in HD? I see both TVNZ and TV3 are running live coverage but neither broadcaster have announced if it will be in HD. I have also heard rumours the BBC's coverage in the UK is going to be in 3D!!!



Just a note about the 3D rumour. There will be no 3D coverage of the event.




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  Reply # 461738 23-Apr-2011 09:54 Send private message

wilt64:
hdinsider: The biggest problem with showing this in HD would be the linking costs. HD costs approximately four times what SD costs to get here. There is nowhere further in the world than NZ from the wedding...

Good news though, the SD pictures should look really good. Much of it will be shot in HD and as the main wedding broadcast is a pool feed, the broadcasters will have mostly the same footage.

I'm looking forward to comparing the technical quality of TV1 and TV3 on the night.



I think you will find the overall picture quality will be better on TV3, MediaWorks seem to put a bit more effort into the technical side of things...lets face it who was the first to go Nicam Stereo, who was the first to go 16:9 wide screen who was the first to go AC3 and HD!!


And who uses composite out from a Sky decoder?? Quite often doing direct comparisons on identical feeds finds the sharpest images on TV1. I'm thinking now of the Christchurch Earthquake event. Don't get me wrong, I think TV3 HD playout is excellent and favour TV3 in that respect.




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  Reply # 463247 28-Apr-2011 09:19

hdinsider: The biggest problem with showing this in HD would be the linking costs. HD costs approximately four times what SD costs to get here. There is nowhere further in the world than NZ from the wedding...

Good news though, the SD pictures should look really good. Much of it will be shot in HD and as the main wedding broadcast is a pool feed, the broadcasters will have mostly the same footage.

I'm looking forward to comparing the technical quality of TV1 and TV3 on the night.



I was wrong on this, there is no "pool" coverage. Both ITV and BBC have separate trucks covering the whole thing, (although they're sharing a few cameras). All being shot in HD and should look amazing. ITV have 47 main cameras on it!





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  Reply # 463249 28-Apr-2011 09:23 Send private message

hdinsider:
hdinsider: The biggest problem with showing this in HD would be the linking costs. HD costs approximately four times what SD costs to get here. There is nowhere further in the world than NZ from the wedding...

Good news though, the SD pictures should look really good. Much of it will be shot in HD and as the main wedding broadcast is a pool feed, the broadcasters will have mostly the same footage.

I'm looking forward to comparing the technical quality of TV1 and TV3 on the night.



I was wrong on this, there is no "pool" coverage. Both ITV and BBC have separate trucks covering the whole thing, (although they're sharing a few cameras). All being shot in HD and should look amazing. ITV have 47 main cameras on it!



Yes should look amazing......but WILL it be in HD in New Zealand?? Does not look like it will be.






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  Reply # 463279 28-Apr-2011 10:14 Send private message

Just watch it on YouTube in 720p...

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  Reply # 463283 28-Apr-2011 10:21 Send private message

1080p: Just watch it on YouTube in 720p...


 

Play .... buffer....play...buffer etc..




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  Reply # 463287 28-Apr-2011 10:23 Send private message

old3eyes:
1080p: Just watch it on YouTube in 720p...


 

Play .... buffer....play...buffer etc..


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  Reply # 463304 28-Apr-2011 11:24 Send private message

hdinsider:
hdinsider: The biggest problem with showing this in HD would be the linking costs. HD costs approximately four times what SD costs to get here. There is nowhere further in the world than NZ from the wedding...

Good news though, the SD pictures should look really good. Much of it will be shot in HD and as the main wedding broadcast is a pool feed, the broadcasters will have mostly the same footage.

I'm looking forward to comparing the technical quality of TV1 and TV3 on the night.



I was wrong on this, there is no "pool" coverage. Both ITV and BBC have separate trucks covering the whole thing, (although they're sharing a few cameras). All being shot in HD and should look amazing. ITV have 47 main cameras on it!



But the actual wedding service inside the abbey, is being produced by the BBC.

' The ceremony inside Westminster Abbey will be covered by NEP Visions, although it will be using 13 special cameras and mounts installed by SIS LIVE. Production inside the Abbey is being produced by the BBC, with feeds available to ITN, which in turn is supplying Sky News, ITV and broadcasters from around the world. '

More about the coverage here




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  Reply # 463337 28-Apr-2011 12:43

wmoore:
hdinsider:
hdinsider: The biggest problem with showing this in HD would be the linking costs. HD costs approximately four times what SD costs to get here. There is nowhere further in the world than NZ from the wedding...

Good news though, the SD pictures should look really good. Much of it will be shot in HD and as the main wedding broadcast is a pool feed, the broadcasters will have mostly the same footage.

I'm looking forward to comparing the technical quality of TV1 and TV3 on the night.



I was wrong on this, there is no "pool" coverage. Both ITV and BBC have separate trucks covering the whole thing, (although they're sharing a few cameras). All being shot in HD and should look amazing. ITV have 47 main cameras on it!



But the actual wedding service inside the abbey, is being produced by the BBC.

' The ceremony inside Westminster Abbey will be covered by NEP Visions, although it will be using 13 special cameras and mounts installed by SIS LIVE. Production inside the Abbey is being produced by the BBC, with feeds available to ITN, which in turn is supplying Sky News, ITV and broadcasters from around the world. '

More about the coverage here


The Mirror article is incorrect. ITV have a 16 camera "scanner" (english tech speak for OB truck) at Westminster Abbey and are covering this themselves.




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  Reply # 463562 29-Apr-2011 00:47 Send private message

hdinsider:
wmoore:
hdinsider:
hdinsider: The biggest problem with showing this in HD would be the linking costs. HD costs approximately four times what SD costs to get here. There is nowhere further in the world than NZ from the wedding...

Good news though, the SD pictures should look really good. Much of it will be shot in HD and as the main wedding broadcast is a pool feed, the broadcasters will have mostly the same footage.

I'm looking forward to comparing the technical quality of TV1 and TV3 on the night.



I was wrong on this, there is no "pool" coverage. Both ITV and BBC have separate trucks covering the whole thing, (although they're sharing a few cameras). All being shot in HD and should look amazing. ITV have 47 main cameras on it!



But the actual wedding service inside the abbey, is being produced by the BBC.

' The ceremony inside Westminster Abbey will be covered by NEP Visions, although it will be using 13 special cameras and mounts installed by SIS LIVE. Production inside the Abbey is being produced by the BBC, with feeds available to ITN, which in turn is supplying Sky News, ITV and broadcasters from around the world. '

More about the coverage here


The Mirror article is incorrect. ITV have a 16 camera "scanner" (english tech speak for OB truck) at Westminster Abbey and are covering this themselves.


So are you saying that ITV are also covering the actual wedding service inside the Abbey with their cameras
along side the BBC ?

Could you link me to your source please ?






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  Reply # 463870 29-Apr-2011 22:59 Send private message

I'd rate tv1's picture better than tv3's tonight.

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  Reply # 463872 29-Apr-2011 23:11 Send private message

Yes TV1was a little bit sharper on sky "HD" than TV3. Sad, but NZ TV has obviously no money for Live HD coverage

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  Reply # 463877 29-Apr-2011 23:43 Send private message

old3eyes:
1080p: Just watch it on YouTube in 720p...


Play .... buffer....play...buffer etc..


Working fine for me... But seriously, came here to check how it is streaming... There's no way to compare the crappy quality (720p? Really?) with TV One on Freeview|HD...





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  Reply # 463889 30-Apr-2011 01:12 Send private message

The picture quality on TV One tonight was pretty awesome so I'd be very surprised if they weren't using an HD source. At the very least it was a very high bitrate SD source converted to H.264.




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