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Topic # 111858 16-Nov-2012 23:35 Send private message

I visit Australia frequently and I have been told you can purchase decoder cards that will work in nz
Apparently people that holiday around the country in caravans buy them (where there is no signal)
Has anyone had any experience with this ?

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  Reply # 718569 17-Nov-2012 00:28

The decoders and cards are hard to get because you need subscription from an Australian address and you need a really good large dish to receive it. There is an older encrypted service that is easily received with ch7 and sbs that will close down next December.




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  Reply # 718619 17-Nov-2012 08:51 Send private message

Map: I visit Australia frequently and I have been told you can purchase decoder cards that will work in nz
Apparently people that holiday around the country in caravans buy them (where there is no signal)
Has anyone had any experience with this ?

If you've got a fairly recent Sky dish on your house (with the oval LNB), then you'll be able to pick up Australian Channel 7, and SBS1 with a suitable set top box. These channels are part of the Optus Aurora service which will be shut down at the end of 2013 and are encrypted.

You will need a set top box which can decrypt the signal (software or Aurora card). These set top boxes can often be found on TradeMe (search for Aurora amongst TV section).

Although Aurora is a DTS service (digital), it isn't HD and the channels are broadcast 12:9 aspect ratio. The service is being replaced by something called VAST, which Australian viewers are encouraged to switch to. Unfortunately we would need 2 meter dishes to receive VAST in NZ.

SBS is the best channel available in NZ with a standard dish.

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  Reply # 718637 17-Nov-2012 09:26 Send private message

silverlake: SBS is the best channel available in NZ with a standard dish.

Amen.  I'm still in mourning over its loss from D1.

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  Reply # 718936 17-Nov-2012 23:22

silverlake: Unfortunately we would need 2 meter dishes to receive VAST in NZ.


Even worse than that, only an awesome 3m dish or bigger will get VAST. I can't do it on a professional 2.4 in Auckland, but I know a guy with a 4m running VAST here.




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  Reply # 725489 1-Dec-2012 13:15 Send private message

Ive got a large 3.7 aluminum dish I got off the roof of the Riverhead pub, can scan in the C1 transponders without problems when Sky aren't using the same sat for their feeds/uplinks causing interference.  Foxtel help channel comes in loud and clear at around 60% snr on a vu+duo.  7 Central constantly sitting on 99% snr even in very heavy rain due to it being on a dual AU/NZ beam.

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  Reply # 725491 1-Dec-2012 13:21 Send private message

gareth41: Ive got a large 3.7 aluminum dish I got off the roof of the Riverhead pub, can scan in the C1 transponders without problems when Sky aren't using the same sat for their feeds/uplinks causing interference.  Foxtel help channel comes in loud and clear at around 60% snr on a vu+duo.  7 Central constantly sitting on 99% snr even in very heavy rain due to it being on a dual AU/NZ beam.

7 Central comes in loud and clear on a standard 65cm Sky dish. If you can lock onto the C1 transponders broadcasting the AU beam, then why not get hold of a VAST STB (try Ozzie Ebay).

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  Reply # 725561 1-Dec-2012 17:52 Send private message

Hi Gareth,

Getting good reception of the Vast channels is a really worthwhile project.
At present I receive SBS from Optus Aurora but when Aurrora closes at the end of 2013 I will want an alternative.I realise that large dishes are expensive and ugly but when you consider that you could be using it for 10 to 15 years I believe it is a good investment to be able to get the quality programs that SBS and ABC broadcast.
There is no proplem in taking a trip to Australia to buy a Vast box and registering it under an Australian address.
I wish you well with this project and look forward to hearing how you get on, i.e. can you get all the Vast channels reliably?
We need more people like you who are prepared to give it a go and experiment!
Cheers!

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  Reply # 725562 1-Dec-2012 18:05 Send private message

Is VAST transmitted unencrypted so that no subscription card is required?

Or is it like Aurora C1, which whilst free to air, still requires an Irdeto card?

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  Reply # 725577 1-Dec-2012 18:48 Send private message

gustov: Is VAST transmitted unencrypted so that no subscription card is required?

Or is it like Aurora C1, which whilst free to air, still requires an Irdeto card?


encrypted and requires the original box with card, ie you cant take the card and use it in a third party receiver.  A friend of mine is actually organizing with a mate in aus to get an austar box sent over.

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  Reply # 725578 1-Dec-2012 18:55 Send private message

Let me know how you get on I travel to Brisbane once a month

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  Reply # 725580 1-Dec-2012 19:13 Send private message

gareth41:
gustov: Is VAST transmitted unencrypted so that no subscription card is required?

Or is it like Aurora C1, which whilst free to air, still requires an Irdeto card?


encrypted and requires the original box with card, ie you cant take the card and use it in a third party receiver.  A friend of mine is actually organizing with a mate in aus to get an austar box sent over.

There are currently 4 VAST STB's being advertised on www.ebay.com.au from AU$265.
Ideally you want a second hand box with a card that is already registered.
Like Aurora, VAST does require a card, but it also has to match the STB. Like Aurora, there is no monthly charge.
If you can receive the signal it would be worth asking if they will ship to NZ.

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  Reply # 725619 1-Dec-2012 23:19 Send private message

Map: Let me know how you get on I travel to Brisbane once a month
You might struggle to get a VAST box in Brisbane. VAST is aimed at the outback market and the point of the cards is to restrict access by region. They want to force viewers to watch terrestrial freeview where available so that (for example) when Australia are playing South Africa in a cricket match at the Gabba - you can't watch it on free to air TV in Brisbane - whereas you can watch it on free to air anywhere else in Australia. As far as I can tell it's all about forcing people to turn up for Test Matches!

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  Reply # 725721 2-Dec-2012 12:19 Send private message

Hi hdinsider,

Can you please tell us more about your friends 4m dish and set-up.Like what type of dish is he using ,lnb and what Vast channels he can receive?
Thanks.

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  Reply # 725764 2-Dec-2012 14:57

peterds: Hi hdinsider,

Can you please tell us more about your friends 4m dish and set-up.Like what type of dish is he using ,lnb and what Vast channels he can receive?
Thanks.


I know the guy through work. He has a setup in the lower north island with a 4m fibreglass dish. Last I heard, he had "acquired" a box and was receiving all the VAST channels (pretty much the whole of the Aussie Freeview channels). I don't know what LNB he's using, but he's a satellite engineer by trade, so would probably be using a pro LNB with a waveguide matching horn.

The other route, that I was thinking of taking, was the 2.4 solid dish with matching LNB as on jayx.co.nz.  It's on their website under "technical articles". They have managed to receive some of the other aussie beam channels on this setup. That might be good enough for VAST.




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  Reply # 725775 2-Dec-2012 15:32 Send private message

Im using a 4 port invacom ku lnb with scalar ring.

heres some photos from when I first put it up
[url=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/02022010302.jpg] <--- ahhh i dont know, can an op do this?????

Theres also some photos there of it on the roof of the riverhead pub just before I took it down.  The lnb in the pictures is the original lnb that was on the dish, a gardiner 11300 single polarity lnb.

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