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  Reply # 449841 19-Mar-2011 12:50 Send private message

Are BG charging VAT (British tax) on them, and could you ask them to remove that?



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  Reply # 449874 19-Mar-2011 13:56 Send private message

Yep, that is VAT free...




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  Reply # 450005 20-Mar-2011 11:03 Send private message

Here's a couple of example invoices for you so you can see what customs charges look like;

NZ Post clearance; http://twitpic.com/4b6w6m

DHL clearance; http://twitpic.com/4b6vzc (this was a half pallet rather than a box which is why the disbursement fee is more).

So it's entirely possible your $20 saving would be lost in fees.






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  Reply # 450011 20-Mar-2011 11:44 Send private message

Hi Hads

Thanks for the examples. I'm under no illusion you're no better off and it's easier to simply order a single card.

This whole scenario is a good example for the GST on imported goods debate. It clearly demonstrates that a New Zealand distributor for this product would struggle to make any money as straight away they have a 15% disadvantage in the form of GST.






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  Reply # 450032 20-Mar-2011 13:35 Send private message

blur:
This whole scenario is a good example for the GST on imported goods debate. It clearly demonstrates that a New Zealand distributor for this product would struggle to make any money as straight away they have a 15% disadvantage in the form of GST.
A company would of course claim that GST back though.

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  Reply # 450065 20-Mar-2011 16:46 Send private message

hads, do you think there's any chance we'll see nicegear with a dual dvb-s or dvb-s2 tuner any time soon? or am I dreaming?

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  Reply # 450081 20-Mar-2011 18:05 Send private message

I actually have a couple of TeVii S480 cards which I brought in for people with our latest shipment. They just aren't on the website as they don't have Linux drivers currently.

If you want one drop me a line through the website and I will sort it.






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  Reply # 450252 21-Mar-2011 08:04 Send private message

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blur:
This whole scenario is a good example for the GST on imported goods debate. It clearly demonstrates that a New Zealand distributor for this product would struggle to make any money as straight away they have a 15% disadvantage in the form of GST.
A company would of course claim that GST back though.



You've misunderstood what I'm saying. A company reselling the card in New Zealand would have to charge GST, thus making the sell price at least 15% more than someone importing and not paying any GST or VAT.




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  Reply # 450304 21-Mar-2011 10:48 Send private message

blur: You've misunderstood what I'm saying. A company reselling the card in New Zealand would have to charge GST, thus making the sell price at least 15% more than someone importing and not paying any GST or VAT.


And that's why retailers have been lobbying the government recently, trying to prevent any personal imports by individuals escape GST charges - in other words they would like everyone to pay GST on everything brought into New Zealand, no matter how low the value is.

Personally I think that the current rules are fair.

You've misunderstood what I'm saying. A company reselling the card in New Zealand would have to charge GST, thus making the sell price at least 15% more than someone importing and not paying any GST or VAT.

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  Reply # 450307 21-Mar-2011 11:01 Send private message

I can see both sides of it, I both run a business importing things to sell, and often import things personally.

Making GST payable on every import doesn't seem reasonable to me. There's no point paying clearance fees etc. for something which is worth NZ$20 or NZ$100 - it would double the price rather than add 15%.

I think some sort of incentive for people to buy locally is a good idea though. There's no point wasting oil resources and making International freight companies rich by many individuals importing small items - somehow the products need to be an more reasonable price here. Supply chains are too long etc.

As an example, I purchased a pair of sandals from the U.S. for our son the other day, they were NZ$30 shipped compared to NZ$80 in stores here. Obviously as I run one, I like to support local businesses where I can, but I'm not going to pay over 2 times the price for an identical item to do so.




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  Reply # 450863 22-Mar-2011 18:39 Send private message

hads: I think some sort of incentive for people to buy locally is a good idea though.

An incentive to buy locally-made goods is a good idea, but I believe that making it difficult for an individual to personally import relatively low-value goods for their own use is a particularly bad idea.

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  Reply # 450875 22-Mar-2011 19:26 Send private message

Deev8:An incentive to buy locally-made goods is a good idea, but I believe that making it difficult for an individual to personally import relatively low-value goods for their own use is a particularly bad idea.


Which as I mentioned is not what I was suggesting at all. 




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  Reply # 451192 23-Mar-2011 18:19 Send private message

hads:
Deev8:An incentive to buy locally-made goods is a good idea, but I believe that making it difficult for an individual to personally import relatively low-value goods for their own use is a particularly bad idea.

Which as I mentioned is not what I was suggesting at all. 

I understood all that you said - you were very clear that "Making GST payable on every import doesn't seem reasonable".

Obviously I wasn't as clear as that.

I disagreed about providing an incentive to buy locally, meaning an incentive to buy imported goods from a local seller rather than directly from overseas. On the other hand I have more sympathy for the idea of providing incentives to buy locally-produced goods.



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  Reply # 451349 24-Mar-2011 10:13 Send private message

Deev8:
I disagreed about providing an incentive to buy locally, meaning an incentive to buy imported goods from a local seller rather than directly from overseas. On the other hand I have more sympathy for the idea of providing incentives to buy locally-produced goods.


My belief is that there is already incentives in place to buy locally. These are in the form of warranties, support and speed of supply.

If you are prepared to forego the above, then I see no reason why you should be paying the same. There is also the argument that it would be more costly to collect the GST on items under $400 than what you'd actually collect. 




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  Reply # 452025 26-Mar-2011 12:29 Send private message

If you going to import something worth more than $1000 NZD then don't forget to apply for a NZ customs client code.  They say it takes 24 hours to generate one but mine took 3 days recently, while my shipment sat at UPS.

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