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Topic # 89249 29-Aug-2011 16:34 Send private message

Hi Guys

With solid state drives getting cheaper, I thought I might dip my toe in the water and purchase a 120GB drive to play around with. The purpose of this thread is to house my musings about this project, and to get some feedback from other users.

To date I have installed the 120GB SSD drive as the C: drive and left my previous drive as the D: drive to house the data.

With my previous setup I had a single Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB drive housing the OS and all my media. This has served me well, but the Caviar Black drives are quite noisy and run quite hot. The other thing that has me worried is that I hate the thought of all my media being on a single drive. A drive failure would be devastating as it has taken ages to put my collection together.

My goal is to have only the SSD in my HTPC with the OS, MediaPortal Application and database, and TV buffer. My media I’d like to move off to a NAS with RAID-5 (something like AllenG has done) and house somewhere other than the lounge as this would be quite noisy. The advantages that I see is that my media has redundancy due to RAID, and that I am removing noise and heat from my HTPC.

A disadvantage might be performance. As yet this has not been tested, but I’d like to know what the setup would perform like if I am say recording 2 channels in HD, say channel 1 and 3, while watching a third? Could the 1.0GB Ethernet keep with the data stream?

Any thoughts / comments would be appreciated.




My HTPC - Case Antec Fusion Remote, MOBO Intel DH67BLB3, CPU Intel Core i5-2400S 2.5 GHz, RAM 8GB  DDR3 1333, HDD 120Gig Corsair Force Series 3 SSD system | WD Caviar Black 2TB data, Tuners Black Gold BGT3595 dual DVB-S/S2, dual DVB-T, Video nVIDIA GeForce GT 520, 1024MB, Sound Intel® High Definition Audio (onboard), OS Windows 7 x64

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  Reply # 513542 29-Aug-2011 16:39 Send private message

Just make sure TRIM is working, or the SSD has onboard garbage collection, and it should perform pretty well.

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  Reply # 514091 30-Aug-2011 21:14 Send private message

You mentioned you would run both mediaportal, the tv server and tv buffer on the htpc, therefore the ethernet speed is irrelevant if recording 2x channels on the htpc while watching a 3rd, unless u mean that you are setting the recording directory in the media server in which case I think the band width would be fine.




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  Reply # 514147 30-Aug-2011 23:04 Send private message

Yeah, recording to the network drive should be okay.

Transponder bandwidth is roughly 30 Mbps.
HD channel bandwidth is roughly 10 Mbps.
SD channel bandwidth tends to be < 5 Mbps.

Nothing compared to 1 Gbps. Even 100 Mbps should be fine. :)

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  Reply # 514166 31-Aug-2011 02:42 Send private message

On the cheap two western digital green drives (slow cheap ones) in RAID1 for media and the SSD for your OS should work fine.

I know someone who's got a crazy amount of media and uses one of these Drobo NAS devices, http://drobo.com/professional.php



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  Reply # 514192 31-Aug-2011 08:13 Send private message

mm1352000: Yeah, recording to the network drive should be okay.

Transponder bandwidth is roughly 30 Mbps.
HD channel bandwidth is roughly 10 Mbps.
SD channel bandwidth tends to be < 5 Mbps.

Nothing compared to 1 Gbps. Even 100 Mbps should be fine. :)


This is good info - confirms that the path that I am going down is not flawed.

Having one drive in my HTPC is bad enough, but the thought of 3 or even 4 drives spinning away would be annoying!   




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  Reply # 514194 31-Aug-2011 08:26 Send private message

Very similer to my config.

HTPC has a 64GB SSD for OS, applications and timeshift buffer and a 500GB WD Black for recording (this only spins up for recording and playback so doesnt add a lot of heat or noise).

All of my other media is housed on a server in the basement (2 x 2TB mirrors using WD black editions). I went with mirrored as onboard RAID sucks with RAID 5, especially if you try and set up 3 2TB drives :-)

I have video streamed to the HTPC and music via a Logitec Squeezebox Touch.




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  Reply # 518542 8-Sep-2011 13:42 Send private message

If you use Windows Home Server and Windows Media Centre, you can do this move automatically.  I have been using this for severla months and it works very well.

Of course it means changing software, but personally I think these two project are some of Mirosoft's better ones.

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  Reply # 521572 15-Sep-2011 16:52 Send private message

"...and house somewhere other than the lounge as this would be quite noisy."

My system has two Seagate 2TB green drives in it, and there's hardly any noise. The fan from my older Sony LCD 40inch TV makes more noise than the PC. These days you can make a pretty silent (and cheap) PC without resorting to moving it to the basement.

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