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Topic # 105306 2-Jul-2012 08:57 Send private message



Looking at 2degrees plans it will cost 

$39 per month plan -S3 $799 

$799 if you go on a 24 month contract at 39 per month (plan im already on) but I could get one on tradme for the same money so no real benefit there Im guessing and no 24 month contract needed. 

$89 per month plan -S3 Free 

To get it free starts at $89 per month for 24 months. 
So thats spending $2100 over 2 years and getting a $800-$1000 phone free. 

$2100 total spend over 24 months subtract the free phones value at $799 leaves spend of $1301 over 24 month contract which gives $54 per month. 
This doesn't seem too bad, $15 increase p.m over buying outright on trademe or on a $39 p.m plan. 
Good way to get the phone if you dont want to pay up front for it.




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  Reply # 649368 2-Jul-2012 09:42 Send private message

webup:

Looking at 2degrees plans it will cost 

$39 per month plan -S3 $799 

$799 if you go on a 24 month contract at 39 per month (plan im already on) but I could get one on tradme for the same money so no real benefit there Im guessing and no 24 month contract needed. 

$89 per month plan -S3 Free 

To get it free starts at $89 per month for 24 months. 
So thats spending $2100 over 2 years and getting a $800-$1000 phone free. 

$2100 total spend over 24 months subtract the free phones value at $799 leaves spend of $1301 over 24 month contract which gives $54 per month. 
This doesn't seem too bad, $15 increase p.m over buying outright on trademe or on a $39 p.m plan. 
Good way to get the phone if you dont want to pay up front for it.


My understanding, from what others have mentioned, after 6 months you can downgrade your contract without fees.  So only the first 6 months @ $89/month, thereafter whatever plan you choose.  Would pay to check that out.




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  Reply # 649382 2-Jul-2012 10:01 Send private message

Neets:
webup:

Looking at 2degrees plans it will cost 

$39 per month plan -S3 $799 

$799 if you go on a 24 month contract at 39 per month (plan im already on) but I could get one on tradme for the same money so no real benefit there Im guessing and no 24 month contract needed. 

$89 per month plan -S3 Free 

To get it free starts at $89 per month for 24 months. 
So thats spending $2100 over 2 years and getting a $800-$1000 phone free. 

$2100 total spend over 24 months subtract the free phones value at $799 leaves spend of $1301 over 24 month contract which gives $54 per month. 
This doesn't seem too bad, $15 increase p.m over buying outright on trademe or on a $39 p.m plan. 
Good way to get the phone if you dont want to pay up front for it.


My understanding, from what others have mentioned, after 6 months you can downgrade your contract without fees.  So only the first 6 months @ $89/month, thereafter whatever plan you choose.  Would pay to check that out.


Hell no!  From what I have read about the fees, if you down grade from the $89 plan within 6 months you get hit with a special smartphone plan termination fee AND the standard plan change fees (and I think there was another fee also); after the first 6 months you get hit by the plan change fee (and possibly another fee).

Who ever you were talking to Neets was very wrong.

Free Smartphone on $89 Pay Monthly plan and above offer - ETC terms

PAY MONTHLY TERMS AND CONDITIONS


Check out these two documents - they tell you the timeframes and costs.

The early termination fee is $1000
The *special* plan transfer fee is $600 (on top of the standard transfer fees) if in first 6 months
and then there are the standard plan transfer fees also after the first 6 months.
AND... you also loose the Pay Monthly bonuses if you break the 24 month contract...

Choice!
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  Reply # 649384 2-Jul-2012 10:06 Send private message

Neets: My understanding, from what others have mentioned, after 6 months you can downgrade your contract without fees.  So only the first 6 months @ $89/month, thereafter whatever plan you choose.  Would pay to check that out.


This was true for the when the original Pay Monthly plans were released, but the terms & conditions changed last year to stop this from happening. And as webup mentioned, when you get a free Galaxy S III there are some additional terms that increase the termination fees to cover the cost of the phone.

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  Reply # 649446 2-Jul-2012 11:14 Send private message

When I signed up with them for my free S3 the terms and conditions were given to me as:

"You will also be charged a one-off plan transfer charge of $600 if you change your Plan to another monthly plan within the first 6 months... the one off plan transfer charge will apply in addition to the standard Plan Transfer Charges set out at clause 31 of the Pay Monthly Plan Terms and Conditions."

Clause 31 states that if you're on the $89 plan and you want to transfer down to the $39 plan you will be charged $110.

I was told in the store that no charges would be accrued but this seems to be wrong when looking at the terms and conditions.

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  Reply # 649483 2-Jul-2012 12:17 Send private message

webup:

Lsubtract the free phones value at $799


Where can you buy this phone for $799?



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  Reply # 649500 2-Jul-2012 12:36 Send private message

gchiu:
webup:

Lsubtract the free phones value at $799


Where can you buy this phone for $799?


The 39 plan lists the purchase price as $799

On Trademe some have been going for 799+
Its not an exact figure just a rough estimate for the sake of the equation and taking account value going forwards.






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  Reply # 649508 2-Jul-2012 12:45 Send private message

Disrespective: When I signed up with them for my free S3 the terms and conditions were given to me as:

"You will also be charged a one-off plan transfer charge of $600 if you change your Plan to another monthly plan within the first 6 months... the one off plan transfer charge will apply in addition to the standard Plan Transfer Charges set out at clause 31 of the Pay Monthly Plan Terms and Conditions."

Clause 31 states that if you're on the $89 plan and you want to transfer down to the $39 plan you will be charged $110.

I was told in the store that no charges would be accrued but this seems to be wrong when looking at the terms and conditions.


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Seems if you change from the $89 plan even after 6 months you need to pay out the remainder of the 24 month contract up to a maximum of $1000.
So its not worth getting the phone and changing plan as it would be cheaper to buy the phone outright and go on whatever plan you want.








Free Smartphone on $89 Pay Monthly plan and above offer - ETC terms
Terms and Conditions
1. These terms and conditions relate to the 2degrees promotion commencing 31 May
2012 offering a free Samsung Galaxy SIII or Samsung Galaxy SII on a Pay Monthly
$89 Plan or above with a 24 month term or a free HTC One X or Nokia Lumia on a
Pay Monthly $129 Plan or above with a 24 month term (“Free Smartphone Offer”).
2. These terms and conditions apply in addition to, and take precedence over, the
2degrees Pay Monthly Terms and Conditions and 2degrees Pay Monthly Plan Terms
and Conditions.
3. Where you sign-up to the Free Smartphone Offer you will be required to pay early
termination charges for terminating your 24 month Plan prior to the expiry of your
term. This will include where you wish to change your 24 month Plan to a 12 month
term outside of the re-sign periods specified in the Pay Monthly Plan Terms and
Conditions.
4. The early termination charge is the amount calculated by multiplying your monthly
Plan charge by the number of months remaining on the term of your Plan as at your
final Billing date, provided that:
(a) For the $89, $129 and $149 Plans the early termination charge shall not exceed
$1000.
5. Please note the early termination charges for the Free Smartphone Offer are higher
than and replace our standard early termination charges set out at clause 24 (b) of
the Pay Monthly Plan Terms and Conditions.
6. You will also be charged a one-off plan transfer charge of $600 if you change your
Plan to another plan within the first 6 months of your term and you change to a Plan
with a monthly fee of less than $89 per month. The one-off plan transfer charge will
apply in addition to the standard Plan Transfer Changes set out at clause 31 of the
Pay Monthly Plan Terms and Conditions.




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  Reply # 649517 2-Jul-2012 13:00 Send private message

gchiu:
webup:

Lsubtract the free phones value at $799


Where can you buy this phone for $799?


You might struggle at present, but a number of people on here purchased phones for around $799 during the Queens Birthday sales.

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  Reply # 652493 8-Jul-2012 13:29 Send private message

I'm pretty sure transferring to a cheaper plan doesn't count as terminating.




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  Reply # 652555 8-Jul-2012 16:46 Send private message

lokhor: I'm pretty sure transferring to a cheaper plan doesn't count as terminating.


Have you read the special conditions for the Smartphone deal or are you speculating?

Some people read these threads for a bit of quick info/advice so if you don't know this for sure you should quantify your statement.

The smartphone deal from 2degrees does have special 'smartphone plan' terminations rates on top of any rates you might otherwise incur from changing plans.

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  Reply # 652612 8-Jul-2012 19:34 Send private message

keewee01:
lokhor: I'm pretty sure transferring to a cheaper plan doesn't count as terminating.


Have you read the special conditions for the Smartphone deal or are you speculating?

Some people read these threads for a bit of quick info/advice so if you don't know this for sure you should quantify your statement.

The smartphone deal from 2degrees does have special 'smartphone plan' terminations rates on top of any rates you might otherwise incur from changing plans.


Free Smartphone ETC Offer Terms and Conditions.


Free Smartphone on $89 Pay Monthly plan and above offer - ETC terms
Terms and Conditions
1. These terms and conditions relate to the 2degrees promotion commencing 31 May
2012 offering a free Samsung Galaxy SIII or Samsung Galaxy SII on a Pay Monthly
$89 Plan or above with a 24 month term or a free HTC One X or Nokia Lumia on a
Pay Monthly $129 Plan or above with a 24 month term (“Free Smartphone Offer”).
2. These terms and conditions apply in addition to, and take precedence over, the
2degrees Pay Monthly Terms and Conditions and 2degrees Pay Monthly Plan Terms
and Conditions.
3. Where you sign-up to the Free Smartphone Offer you will be required to pay early
termination charges for terminating your 24 month Plan prior to the expiry of your
term. This will include where you wish to change your 24 month Plan to a 12 month
term outside of the re-sign periods specified in the Pay Monthly Plan Terms and
Conditions.
4. The early termination charge is the amount calculated by multiplying your monthly
Plan charge by the number of months remaining on the term of your Plan as at your
final Billing date, provided that:
(a) For the $89, $129 and $149 Plans the early termination charge shall not exceed
$1000.
5. Please note the early termination charges for the Free Smartphone Offer are higher
than and replace our standard early termination charges set out at clause 24 (b) of
the Pay Monthly Plan Terms and Conditions.
6. You will also be charged a one-off plan transfer charge of $600 if you change your
Plan to another plan within the first 6 months of your term and you change to a Plan
with a monthly fee of less than $89 per month. The one-off plan transfer charge will
apply in addition to the standard Plan Transfer Changes set out at clause 31 of the
Pay Monthly Plan Terms and Conditions.


and

Pay Monthly Terms and Conditions




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  Reply # 652643 8-Jul-2012 21:24 Send private message

lokhor:
keewee01:
lokhor: I'm pretty sure transferring to a cheaper plan doesn't count as terminating.


Have you read the special conditions for the Smartphone deal or are you speculating?

Some people read these threads for a bit of quick info/advice so if you don't know this for sure you should quantify your statement.

The smartphone deal from 2degrees does have special 'smartphone plan' terminations rates on top of any rates you might otherwise incur from changing plans.


Free Smartphone ETC Offer Terms and Conditions.


Free Smartphone on $89 Pay Monthly plan and above offer - ETC terms
Terms and Conditions
1. These terms and conditions relate to the 2degrees promotion commencing 31 May
2012 offering a free Samsung Galaxy SIII or Samsung Galaxy SII on a Pay Monthly
$89 Plan or above with a 24 month term or a free HTC One X or Nokia Lumia on a
Pay Monthly $129 Plan or above with a 24 month term (“Free Smartphone Offer”).
2. These terms and conditions apply in addition to, and take precedence over, the
2degrees Pay Monthly Terms and Conditions and 2degrees Pay Monthly Plan Terms
and Conditions.
3. Where you sign-up to the Free Smartphone Offer you will be required to pay early
termination charges for terminating your 24 month Plan prior to the expiry of your
term. This will include where you wish to change your 24 month Plan to a 12 month
term outside of the re-sign periods specified in the Pay Monthly Plan Terms and
Conditions.
4. The early termination charge is the amount calculated by multiplying your monthly
Plan charge by the number of months remaining on the term of your Plan as at your
final Billing date, provided that:
(a) For the $89, $129 and $149 Plans the early termination charge shall not exceed
$1000.
5. Please note the early termination charges for the Free Smartphone Offer are higher
than and replace our standard early termination charges set out at clause 24 (b) of
the Pay Monthly Plan Terms and Conditions.
6. You will also be charged a one-off plan transfer charge of $600 if you change your
Plan to another plan within the first 6 months of your term and you change to a Plan
with a monthly fee of less than $89 per month. The one-off plan transfer charge will
apply in addition to the standard Plan Transfer Changes set out at clause 31 of the
Pay Monthly Plan Terms and Conditions.


and

Pay Monthly Terms and Conditions


So just what was the point of your original comment!?? That is the bit I am struggling with as I thought you might be suggesting that there weren't extra fees associated with changing plans...



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  Reply # 652714 9-Jul-2012 07:33 Send private message

This part in the free smartphone terms and conditions


Where you sign-up to the Free Smartphone Offer you will be required to pay early
termination charges for terminating your 24 month Plan prior to the expiry of your
term. This will include where you wish to change your 24 month Plan to a 12 month
term outside of the re-sign periods specified in the Pay Monthly Plan Terms and
Conditions.


And this section in the pay monthly terms and conditions

(ii) If you terminate this Agreement or end your fixed term Services
(including any fixed term Plan) before the end of the fixed term
you may have to pay early termination charges. Details of early
termination charges can be obtained by contacting Customer
Care or visiting www.2degreesmobile.co.nz.
(iii) If you transfer to a new Plan before the expiry of any existing
fixed term, you may have to pay Plan transfer charges. Details
of Plan transfer charges can be obtained by contacting
Customer Care or visiting www.2degreesmobile.co.nz.



Both imply that switching plans without altering the term is not considered termination, and you will only have to pay for plan transfer charges. 




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  Reply # 656925 17-Jul-2012 11:14 Send private message

Here is what I believe I have done:

I'm already on the $39 / month plan, I have signed to go for the $89 plan for 24 months and got the Galaxy S3 for free plus the following:
1- 1 GB/ month
2- 1 GB / weekend (Touch2Pay offer)
3- The normal $89 plan minutes (460 /month I think) etc
4- Free bus pass for the weekend (Touch2Pay offer)
5- 24 months phone warranty (wohhhhooooo)

So the terms and conditions says clearly that I CAN change back down to my original $39 plan after 6 months. Also to change from $89 to $39 you will pay fees of $110

That makes what I have paid for the phone = ($89 - $39) * 6 months + $110 = $410

I'm paying $410 for the phone, I am also selling my I9000 on trade me and so far it's auction went up to $360 and still running for another week :D so I believe with all the extras I am giving away with the phone I have a chance to sell it for $400 (as I am also offering free signature shipping if you pay $400)

This means I am getting the I9300 for $10 and with that I am getting free bus on the weekends, 24 months warranty and free 1GB for the weekend as well. Not to mention that by the end of the 6 months I will probably end up with thousands of unused monthly minutes HELL YEAH.

Sounds like a sweet deal to me :D

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  Reply # 657158 17-Jul-2012 18:26 Send private message

menabassily: Here is what I believe I have done:

I'm already on the $39 / month plan, I have signed to go for the $89 plan for 24 months and got the Galaxy S3 for free plus the following:
1- 1 GB/ month
2- 1 GB / weekend (Touch2Pay offer)
3- The normal $89 plan minutes (460 /month I think) etc
4- Free bus pass for the weekend (Touch2Pay offer)
5- 24 months phone warranty (wohhhhooooo)

So the terms and conditions says clearly that I CAN change back down to my original $39 plan after 6 months. Also to change from $89 to $39 you will pay fees of $110

That makes what I have paid for the phone = ($89 - $39) * 6 months + $110 = $410

I'm paying $410 for the phone, I am also selling my I9000 on trade me and so far it's auction went up to $360 and still running for another week :D so I believe with all the extras I am giving away with the phone I have a chance to sell it for $400 (as I am also offering free signature shipping if you pay $400)

This means I am getting the I9300 for $10 and with that I am getting free bus on the weekends, 24 months warranty and free 1GB for the weekend as well. Not to mention that by the end of the 6 months I will probably end up with thousands of unused monthly minutes HELL YEAH.

Sounds like a sweet deal to me :D


I'm not sure you've read and understood the T's & C's properly... I think it will cost you a lot more than that to get out after only 6 months.

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