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  Reply # 242275 4-Aug-2009 11:06 Send private message

Ok, I was really looking forward to switching to 2degrees.
I'm really excited about the 9c texting and 44c calling, but unfortunately I'm going to have to stick with Vodafone because I'm a heavy data user and the cost of data 2degrees provides will cost me a lot. So regrettably until they have cheaper data plans, I just can't switch.

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  Reply # 242279 4-Aug-2009 11:13 Send private message

sep11guy: a few months back in FEB 09 i had started a discussionc http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=30927

and later in Reply # 198302 i had suggested a few options like

"I suggest - 
50 free text straight away when you recharge for the minimum 20$.
give small packages - like 1000 txt for 2$. there are so many ppl out der who would just want to msg jus for conveying small msgs now and then. not for hardcore texters. they dont have to commit to 10$. 
increase txt2000 to txt5000 to make it equivalent to above - so that the cost remains the same. 
i think these small steps will come a long way to grab more customers. you could also see in this way - customers who are not currently on txt2K will want to give txting a try for just 2$, and once they get the hang of it they will txt more and eventually touching the target of 10$. now imagine this multiplied by the number of new customers doing the same. "

i dunno if 2 degrees was inspired by my posts or if someone on geekzone is working there but its good to see that what i kinda pointed at is slowly coming true..



Youy mean they read the implemented something similar to your first suggestion, and totally ignored the bulk of your suggestions?

 

 

A "Sensing Murder" success rate I think. :D

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  Reply # 242281 4-Aug-2009 11:18 Send private message

Texting in New Zealand is only as popular as it is because calling costs so much. It's much cheaper to text than it is to call. In other countries it isn't like this. So I hope that 2degrees changes this with their cheap calling costs.

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  Reply # 242283 4-Aug-2009 11:21

rb85:
2degrees: Hi Geekzoners!
 
But, the important bits: 
It costs 44c a minute (or part minute)



What does 'or part minute' mean?
Does that mean I only get billed for the part of the minute I use - or the whole minute if I use only part?

Thanks!


A back to topic bump.

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  Reply # 242288 4-Aug-2009 11:30 Send private message

People text so much because they get gouged on calls on the lower end calling plans.

My thoughts:

"All the calls that you make on our network are rounded up to the nearest minute" <- Very unimpressed, I had my hopes up it would be per sec after first minute, sigh..

The 22c calling for 30 days does make the deal a bit sweeter, if this was the going rate for all calls, I'm sure a huge amount of ears would prick up.

The 9c SMS to major international countries is great.

MMS support to international destinations is very good though overall pricing locally or on-net (50c) is quite high compared to Telecom/Vodafone.

50c/MB is quite expensive, if it were 25c it that would have been quite competitive.

It looks like the "full Minute Rouding may heve been an afterthought? there is some text on the site that states:
"It only costs 9c to text and 44c a minute (or part minute) to call any landline or mobile in our top 21 countries:"
Part minute? I hoped this would have been the case but sadly further down the page it states again :"All voice minutes are rounded up the nearest minute.

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  Reply # 242289 4-Aug-2009 11:36

paradoxsm: People text so much because they get gouged on calls on the lower end calling plans.

My thoughts:

"All the calls that you make on our network are rounded up to the nearest minute" <- Very unimpressed, I had my hopes up it would be per sec after first minute, sigh..

The 22c calling for 30 days does make the deal a bit sweeter, if this was the going rate for all calls, I'm sure a huge amount of ears would prick up.

The 9c SMS to major international countries is great.

MMS support to international destinations is very good though overall pricing locally or on-net (50c) is quite high compared to Telecom/Vodafone.

50c/MB is quite expensive, if it were 25c it that would have been quite competitive.

It looks like the "full Minute Rouding may heve been an afterthought? there is some text on the site that states:
"It only costs 9c to text and 44c a minute (or part minute) to call any landline or mobile in our top 21 countries:"
Part minute? I hoped this would have been the case but sadly further down the page it states again :"All voice minutes are rounded up the nearest minute.


Thanks that answered my question! :)

9c a text to overseas is awesome!
Locally not as good when compared to XT TXT150, 600 or 1800 which costs 4. 2 and 1.2 cents per text respectively.

67 text at 9c costs approx. $6.

These are my own calculations so correct me if I'm wrong.



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  Reply # 242291 4-Aug-2009 11:40 Send private message

paradoxsm: People text so much because they get gouged on calls on the lower end calling plans.

My thoughts:

"All the calls that you make on our network are rounded up to the nearest minute" <- Very unimpressed, I had my hopes up it would be per sec after first minute, sigh..

The 22c calling for 30 days does make the deal a bit sweeter, if this was the going rate for all calls, I'm sure a huge amount of ears would prick up.

The 9c SMS to major international countries is great.

MMS support to international destinations is very good though overall pricing locally or on-net (50c) is quite high compared to Telecom/Vodafone.

50c/MB is quite expensive, if it were 25c it that would have been quite competitive.

It looks like the "full Minute Rouding may heve been an afterthought? there is some text on the site that states:
"It only costs 9c to text and 44c a minute (or part minute) to call any landline or mobile in our top 21 countries:"
Part minute? I hoped this would have been the case but sadly further down the page it states again :"All voice minutes are rounded up the nearest minute.


That's what 'part minute' means.  All yur calls are charged at 44c per minute or part minute.  If you use a part of a minute, that part (ebtween 1 and 59 seconds) is still charged at 44c regarldess of the size fo the part. 
For example:  call for 64 seconds. you have 1 full minute, and 4 seconds which is one part minute, so you are charged 44c for the first full minute, and 44c for the part minute = 88c

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  Reply # 242295 4-Aug-2009 11:49 Send private message

Whilst in essence 2Degrees have delivered on promise I too expected a bit more on offer, yes i would have liked 20c/min anytime but that was probably a bit of a dream, 44c is the next best thing. However, i really did expect a best mates type on net deal and i think this will stop a number of potential converters. Given the wife on XT and my on CDMA the best mates thing makes up most of our calls etc, even at 44c anytime it is not enough of a carrot for me to move, 44c/22c per min plus a best mates option would have had the wife and I switched over in a flash. At this stage it is a two steps forward, one step back scenario.

The cost of a new phone plus loss of best mates = dealbreaker for me at present, i will hold out for postpay options.


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  Reply # 242644 4-Aug-2009 19:53 Send private message

damianf: Big reveal was a bit disappointing - we're still switching (would do at same price to get away from Voda), but lack of post-paid option and crappy data pricing means it might be a while.

Also don't fancy chucking out our Blackberries and upgrading all our handsets to switch.

Dilemmas.

C'mon 2Degrees - enough of the secrecy... let's have some dates! When can we expect post-pay? Any plans to offer a Blackberry service?


if you're on voda you shouldn't have to switch phones or numbers

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  Reply # 242648 4-Aug-2009 20:04 Send private message

V: Ok, I was really looking forward to switching to 2degrees.
I'm really excited about the 9c texting and 44c calling, but unfortunately I'm going to have to stick with Vodafone because I'm a heavy data user and the cost of data 2degrees provides will cost me a lot. So regrettably until they have cheaper data plans, I just can't switch.


Why not have two sims from VF and 2 degrees?  Although for convenience you'd probably want a new phone for calls.

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  Reply # 242657 4-Aug-2009 20:25 Send private message

Disappointed at the lack of $10 or less txt plan.




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  Reply # 242679 4-Aug-2009 21:18 Send private message

derega: if you're on voda you shouldn't have to switch phones or numbers



Wish this was true, although 2Degrees is not providing Blackberry support (and hasn't announced when/if they will).


I wonder if their lack of post-pay and data services is because they rushed to market or if it's a clever ploy to give them stuff to keep feeding to the market (staying in the headlines in the process)?

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