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Topic # 111327 30-Oct-2012 15:33 Send private message

Anyone else playing LoL on a Snap (VDSL) internet connection?

My connection has gone from completely lag-free 150ms to jittering between 150ms and 900ms constantly throughout the game.

It even seems as if packets are coming back in the wrong order (although this could just be a side effect of certain packets getting delayed a lot). 

I'm guessing there is a bad link thats dropping packets somewhere en-route to the server or causing random jitter. I've tested on a Vodafone connection, and it works fine.

The server address is 216.133.234.171 but its not pingable unfortunately, just wondering if others have had the same issue.

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  Reply # 709241 30-Oct-2012 16:16 Send private message

Haven't had the issue myself - Is your modem overheating? Had a chance to test another one? On a wired or wireless connection?
Can you produce traceroutes to the I.P address?

Think we might need some more into to help you out. :)



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  Reply # 709347 30-Oct-2012 18:37 Send private message

Thanks for the quick reply - just started happening in the last couple of days.

Fritzbox doesn't seem to be overheating, as we use VOIP with 2talk and the line is perfect - no jitter, and really decent 1ms 8b profile with great bandwidth - 55mb down, 10.5mbit up - really happy with the speeds!

On a wired connection, we've checked all the usual things.. I'm a software developer and we also do IT support, the VDSL is for my business, just like having a game on my lunch break :)

Traceroute below:

Tracing route to 216.133.234.171 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.box [192.168.1.1]
2 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 16.17.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.17.16]
3 6 ms 6 ms 5 ms 54.32.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz [111.69.32.54]

4 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms 111-69-27-65.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.65]
5 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms 210.80.27.5
6 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 0.xo-1-0-0.XT4.AKL1.ALTER.NET [210.80.35.17]
7 150 ms 150 ms 150 ms 0.so-0-0-0.IL2.LAX12.Alter.Net [210.80.50.89]
8 151 ms 152 ms 150 ms 0.xe-3-3-0.IL4.LAX9.ALTER.NET [152.63.114.17]
9 136 ms 136 ms 136 ms 0.xe-6-1-2.XL4.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.5.118]
10 135 ms 135 ms 135 ms POS7-0-0.GW3.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.109]
11 138 ms 134 ms 134 ms internapGIGE-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.236.
110]
12 139 ms 138 ms 139 ms border1.po2-20g-bbnet2.lax010.pnap.net [216.52.2
55.103]

13 * * * Request timed out.

14 * * * Request timed out.
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30 * * * Request timed out.

 

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  Reply # 709541 30-Oct-2012 23:00 Send private message

Hi Monkey300,

I sit in the Engine Room at Snap. How are things looking tonight?




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  Reply # 710487 1-Nov-2012 16:19 Send private message

Just had a game today, was a solid 140ms all the way through - it was amazing, thanks guys!

Really impressed with the VDSL2 service - would recommend to anyone :)

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  Reply # 711227 3-Nov-2012 08:38 Send private message

monkey300: Just had a game today, was a solid 140ms all the way through - it was amazing, thanks guys!

Really impressed with the VDSL2 service - would recommend to anyone :)


Wait until you get fiber





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  Reply # 711233 3-Nov-2012 08:59 Send private message

my flatmates are always complaining of Ping issues with LoL, why don't they just get an Australasian server!!!

 

I'm the tech guy of the flat so always have to deal with their complaints when every other game works fine.



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  Reply # 712530 5-Nov-2012 19:46 Send private message

Looks like I might have been playing on another cluster of IP addresses the other day, as today the problem is back, flicking between 140 and 700ms latency.

Any chance you could have another look please?

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  Reply # 712583 5-Nov-2012 21:28 Send private message

monkey300: Looks like I might have been playing on another cluster of IP addresses the other day, as today the problem is back, flicking between 140 and 700ms latency.

Any chance you could have another look please?


Can you please post a netstat while playing?

To do this, 

- Open the game, and start a session.
- Open the command prompt (click the Start button, enter 'cmd' and press enter)
- Into the command prompt, type 'netstat' and press enter.
- Print-screen the resulting output (or use the copy and paste functionality of the command window) and upload it here.

This will give us the exact IP address you're connecting to for LoL (and anything else mind you!) -- we'll then match that to the known LoL IP addresses, and begin investigating.

Thanks,
Tim




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  Reply # 712592 5-Nov-2012 21:45 Send private message

I was running a packet sniffer called smartsniff previously to narrow it down to exactly the one sending all the packets if that's more precise for you?

A note to the guy above with the flat full of LoLers - you can use a packet sniffer to work out the LoL ports (just grab WinPCap and SmartSniff or another sniffer), then you can set up QoS rules to prioritise traffic if you're using DD-WRT or a modem that allows you to set QoS up. Also you can enable a setting 'Prioritise ACKs' which may help to a certain degree (as well as turning off interleaving with the help of your ISP if you're on ADSL).

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  Reply # 712599 5-Nov-2012 22:02 Send private message

Well, if you can see a particular IP address doing lots of traffic when LoL is open, that's ideal.

Interesting you mention DD-WRT. ACK prioritisation is a good idea. However, I am seeing a disproportionate number of complaints about performance and issues stemming from users running DD-WRT lately (I need to go around and actually record who) - specifically those using the ASUS DIR-615.

... To the point where I'm going to ask anyone running a DIR-615 to test with a different router first...

*edit*: this is possibly because these users are more technically literate.




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  Reply # 712967 6-Nov-2012 15:13 Send private message

I used to use DD-WRT (On a DIR-615 and a WRT54G2), but I'm not running it any more, as I noticed both the routers slowed max download bandwidth when compared to a standard ISP modem/router on its own.

The IP address thats sending all the traffic is 216.133.234.153 port 51003

Interestingly it doesn't show up on netstat (or netstat -a) although a couple of others in the same subnet do:

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP 192.168.1.100:1441 tf-in-f125:5222 ESTABLISHED
TCP 192.168.1.100:1444 sjc-not5:http ESTABLISHED
TCP 192.168.1.100:1448 ec2-23-22-46-164:http ESTABLISHED
TCP 192.168.1.100:1467 by2msg3020505:msnp ESTABLISHED
TCP 192.168.1.100:2865 216.133.234.22:2099 ESTABLISHED
TCP 192.168.1.100:2866 216.133.234.21:5223 ESTABLISHED
TCP 192.168.1.100:2905 ec2-50-112-140-187:https CLOSE_WAIT
TCP 192.168.1.100:2920 207.46.105.159:http ESTABLISHED
TCP 192.168.1.100:2922 fritz:49000 TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.1.100:52562 a23-8-160-60:https CLOSE_WAIT

Hope this is useful - my previous game was connecting to another similar address (216.133.234.171) so I'm guessing a few addresses in this range all have the same issue.



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  Reply # 713556 7-Nov-2012 15:18 Send private message

Had 2 games today on the 216.133.234.x range and they were both very smooth at 140ms - looks like you have fixed it - thanks very much!

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  Reply # 713568 7-Nov-2012 15:35 Send private message

Hi Monkey300,

Can you PM me your Snap username? I fear you might be part of a related problem...




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  Reply # 716915 14-Nov-2012 11:08 Send private message

Hi I'm also have intermittent lag / frequent disconnects in league of legends with snap in Christchurch. Ping is now around 190ms , previously was 140ms. I'll PM you my details.





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  Reply # 716956 14-Nov-2012 11:30 Send private message

hmm my flatmate has noticed the same thing - he would complain to us to stop uploading as his LoL session is lagging (and there's nothing being uploaded at the time), could possibly be related?




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