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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 650489 4-Jul-2012 09:56 Send private message

P1n3apqlExpr3ss:  Click here!

For those too lazy to click the link, it'll retail here in NZ for $439


Hehe!

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Master Geek


  Reply # 650502 4-Jul-2012 10:28 Send private message

P1n3apqlExpr3ss: Hey guys, wanna learn something interesting? Click here!

For those too lazy to click the link, it'll retail here in NZ for $439


Interesting. I had assumed we would not get the Nexus 7 in NZ, because we don't have Google Movies, Books, or Music. For a device based around consuming media, we only have 1 out of the 4 services google provides.



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Master Geek


  Reply # 650503 4-Jul-2012 10:29 Send private message

toncijak: this is getting murkier and murkier.

I don't understand how the price in New Zealand can really be twice that of in the US, UK and AUS.

Is there an American counterpart to clove.co.uk?



It's not twice the price of the US - $249US is around $314NZ, so w/o shipping factored in, the 16GB is around $120 dearer. Steep, yes, but a similar situation to Aus. They are paying $249AUD for the 16GB, so the difference bwtween our price and theirs is smaller.

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  Reply # 650509 4-Jul-2012 10:36 Send private message

athor:
P1n3apqlExpr3ss: Hey guys, wanna learn something interesting? Click here!

For those too lazy to click the link, it'll retail here in NZ for $439


Interesting. I had assumed we would not get the Nexus 7 in NZ, because we don't have Google Movies, Books, or Music. For a device based around consuming media, we only have 1 out of the 4 services google provides.




This is why I'm encouraged to learn that it is coming here. To me, selling it here would only make sense if Google planned to extend its Play market here too. Selling its Fire extinguisher globally then hobbling access to content seems to make little sense.

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Uber Geek
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  Reply # 650510 4-Jul-2012 10:37 Send private message

athor:

Interesting. I had assumed we would not get the Nexus 7 in NZ, because we don't have Google Movies, Books, or Music. For a device based around consuming media, we only have 1 out of the 4 services google provides.


Possibly it's a case of 'yet'? 

I would welcome a different legal channel to get content here in NZ and as I have said before if iTunes can manage to distribute content globally I can't see what is stopping everybody else.

Bring on the Nexus 7 and bring on the services. 




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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 650542 4-Jul-2012 11:26 Send private message

Australian cost exc gst: 271.82 = 347.49 NZD exc gst
NZD inc gst = 399.61
Add in delivery costs ($30~) = $430
Retail price = $439
Doesn't sound that bad to me

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  Reply # 650549 4-Jul-2012 11:41 Send private message

P1n3apqlExpr3ss: Australian cost exc gst: 271.82 = 347.49 NZD exc gst
NZD inc gst = 399.61
Add in delivery costs ($30~) = $430
Retail price = $439
Doesn't sound that bad to me


Might have to wait until supply becomes common and we can import from the USA for a bit cheaper.

In terms of local pricing, I think $399 would make it much more attractive. 




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Master Geek


  Reply # 650555 4-Jul-2012 11:48 Send private message

 
It's not twice the price of the US - $249US is around $314NZ, so w/o shipping factored in, the 16GB is around $120 dearer. Steep, yes, but a similar situation to Aus. They are paying $249AUD for the 16GB, so the difference bwtween our price and theirs is smaller.



Why does everyone say the US are paying $249, they are not, if a California buys one they pay $249 plus 8.75% sale tax (state and local can be as much as 9.75%) $21.78 plus electronic waste tax $6 plus shipping $14 that is wait for it $290.78 USD use 0.78c exchange rate that is $372.80 NZD.

So $439 is only $65 more than what the average american would pay.

If you import from Clove UK you may land one here (depending on VAT exclusive price) for $380NZD, that is only $7, yes seven dollars than an American would pay.

So please all stop complaining about the price.

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Uber Geek
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  Reply # 650561 4-Jul-2012 11:59 Send private message

twobikes:
So please all stop complaining about the price.


Complaining about prices is a right, some would say it is the internet is for. 

$340 is about $60 less that what you would pay for 8.9 Galaxy Tab 16GB at JB, so for something being billed as fighting on price it isn't really a knockout punch. It's cheaper but with a price difference under $100 for a rival with similar spec it isn't much to jump up and down about. 

Personally, I think the 8GB is the way to go for now and the really interesting thing is whether, or hopefully when, we will have access to the Google content store. 







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Master Geek


  Reply # 650562 4-Jul-2012 12:01 Send private message

twobikes:

So please all stop complaining about the price.


Actually, not "all" have been complaining - you chose to quote one of my posts in which I was very clearly arguing against the price being considered excessive. There is a small extra charge here, and not every US state charges sales tax, so your rebuttal is not universally valid. Nevertheless I am not one of those who have been complaining, as the post you chose to quote actually makes quite clear.

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Master Geek


  Reply # 650566 4-Jul-2012 12:09 Send private message

crackrdbycracku:

Personally, I think the 8GB is the way to go for now and the really interesting thing is whether, or hopefully when, we will have access to the Google content store. 



If we get the content store then I'd agree the 8GB is the way to go, but is the 8GB being retailed here?

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  Reply # 650569 4-Jul-2012 12:14 Send private message

buy local guys. we need to support those stores!

thanks for the info. all i need to do is to go to Jb hifi and get them to reserve one for me.





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  Reply # 650572 4-Jul-2012 12:21 Send private message

stuartjmz:
If we get the content store then I'd agree the 8GB is the way to go, but is the 8GB being retailed here?


Well, as of now the Nexus 7 isn't being retailed here unless you know somewhere I can actually buy it, I'm waiting for to be available locally. The rest is pretty much speculation. 

I have a hard time seeing why they would only retail one and not the other but stranger things have happened. Maybe someone will think the margin on the 8GB isn't big enough to justify selling it here or whatever.

I also can't see the point in saying they will sell it here without at least a plan for the content store as my understanding is the purchase price is subsidised in the hope you will buy content from Google. This is how the Kindle Fire worked so it seems pretty reasonable, and on the flip-side Amazon never said "We will sell the Fire worldwide" and they haven't said anything I can remember about extending outside the US.

My speculation is no better, or worse, than anybody's.  




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Wannabe Geek


  Reply # 650574 4-Jul-2012 12:23 Send private message

twobikes:
 
It's not twice the price of the US - $249US is around $314NZ, so w/o shipping factored in, the 16GB is around $120 dearer. Steep, yes, but a similar situation to Aus. They are paying $249AUD for the 16GB, so the difference bwtween our price and theirs is smaller.



Why does everyone say the US are paying $249, they are not, if a California buys one they pay $249 plus 8.75% sale tax (state and local can be as much as 9.75%) $21.78 plus electronic waste tax $6 plus shipping $14 that is wait for it $290.78 USD use 0.78c exchange rate that is $372.80 NZD.

So $439 is only $65 more than what the average american would pay.

If you import from Clove UK you may land one here (depending on VAT exclusive price) for $380NZD, that is only $7, yes seven dollars than an American would pay.

So please all stop complaining about the price.


For a product that was released to the market with one of its primary goals to provide a cost effective product to the tablet market, I personally (and you can disagree) believe the pricing indicated falls well below the mark.

The facts are there, and because of that this pricing truly fails in "my opinion" to meet the hype and excitement that I first felt when I saw the press release.

Judging what NZ RRP should be based on the cost of importing individual units is a flawed method to start with, the shipping costs per unit would be reduced to fractions of that for us to individually import.

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Master Geek


  Reply # 650575 4-Jul-2012 12:24 Send private message

crackrdbycracku:
stuartjmz:
If we get the content store then I'd agree the 8GB is the way to go, but is the 8GB being retailed here?


Well, as of now the Nexus 7 isn't being retailed here unless you know somewhere I can actually buy it, I'm waiting for to be available locally. The rest is pretty much speculation. 

I have a hard time seeing why they would only retail one and not the other but stranger things have happened. Maybe someone will think the margin on the 8GB isn't big enough to justify selling it here or whatever.

I also can't see the point in saying they will sell it here without at least a plan for the content store as my understanding is the purchase price is subsidised in the hope you will buy content from Google. This is how the Kindle Fire worked so it seems pretty reasonable, and on the flip-side Amazon never said "We will sell the Fire worldwide" and they haven't said anything I can remember about extending outside the US.

My speculation is no better, or worse, than anybody's.  


I agree with your comments about the content store, and have explicitly said the same thing myself above. As for the retail options, in the UK at least, it is only the 16GB that is being sold through stores, the 8GB only available through Google Play. It doesn't seem unreasonable to see that situation applied elsewhere. 

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