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  Reply # 679097 30-Aug-2012 08:42 Send private message

NZ also has non-use provisions for trademarks.  Three years i think is the limit.

Also I have seen a lot of comments abput patenting ideas.  You cannot patent an idea, but only an invention that carries out the idea.  So for example you could not patent colour photography but only the method used to create colour photos.  If someone comes up with another different method to do the same thing then your patent is not infringed. 

On a completely different note, this is hilarious...

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/apple-patents-destroy-the-starship-enterprise-video.php

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  Reply # 679100 30-Aug-2012 08:47 Send private message

Giggs: NZ also has non-use provisions for trademarks.  Three years i think is the limit.

Also I have seen a lot of comments abput patenting ideas.  You cannot patent an idea, but only an invention that carries out the idea.  So for example you could not patent colour photography but only the method used to create colour photos.  If someone comes up with another different method to do the same thing then your patent is not infringed. 

On a completely different note, this is hilarious...

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/apple-patents-destroy-the-starship-enterprise-video.php


It is .  Wonder how long before Apple complains to CBS  and it gets pulled due it infringing on CBS's IP..




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  Reply # 679103 30-Aug-2012 08:52 Send private message

Giggs: NZ also has non-use provisions for trademarks.  Three years i think is the limit.

Also I have seen a lot of comments abput patenting ideas.  You cannot patent an idea, but only an invention that carries out the idea.  So for example you could not patent colour photography but only the method used to create colour photos.  If someone comes up with another different method to do the same thing then your patent is not infringed. 

On a completely different note, this is hilarious...

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/apple-patents-destroy-the-starship-enterprise-video.php


haha.. Good one..

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  Reply # 679107 30-Aug-2012 08:56 Send private message

Giggs: NZ also has non-use provisions for trademarks.? Three years i think is the limit.

Also?I have seen a lot of comments?abput patenting ideas.? You cannot patent an idea, but only?an invention that carries out the idea.? So for example you could not patent colour photography but only the method used to create colour photos.? If someone comes up with another different method to do the same thing then your patent is not infringed.?

On a completely different note, this is hilarious...

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/apple-patents-destroy-the-starship-enterprise-video.php


Nice find on the video.
Deserves to be on the GZ "Epic Youtube Videos" thread.




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  Reply # 679112 30-Aug-2012 09:03 Send private message

Giggs:
On a completely different note, this is hilarious...

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/apple-patents-destroy-the-starship-enterprise-video.php


An excellent education video on what could happen if the patent craziness is not ended!! Laughing

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  Reply # 679273 30-Aug-2012 14:31 Send private message

Have not read through the last 15 pages to see if this has been mentioned but..
I wonder if apple has somewhat shot themselves in the shot for future development by making such claims (personally i think this damages healthy competition and apple should not have the rights to something which is so 'common').

So let's say the asus padfone takes off has apple ruled themselves out of producing any sort of tablet with Incorporated phone by opening this can of worms ?

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  Reply # 679274 30-Aug-2012 14:35 Send private message

qwerty7: Have not read through the last 15 pages to see if this has been mentioned but..
I wonder if apple has somewhat shot themselves in the shot for future development by making such claims (personally i think this damages healthy competition and apple should not have the rights to something which is so 'common').

So let's say the asus padfone takes off has apple ruled themselves out of producing any sort of tablet with Incorporated phone by opening this can of worms ?


They would probably eat their words when it comes to changes as rumors are they are changing the size of their phone and also an additional - smaller tablet..

They always had a hard and fast rule (well atleast Steve Jobs did) that only one size that they decide is perfect size and no other size would be adopted by them..

Another 2 weeks to go before we can see how things have changed after Steve Jobs departure..

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  Reply # 679355 30-Aug-2012 16:45 Send private message

Well I know the ones here stuck with iPhones have extreme screen envy even with the S2 ;)




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  Reply # 679430 30-Aug-2012 19:23 Send private message

I guess when Apple brings out the iCamera they will be suing Samsung again..

http://www.mobilekiwi.co.nz./android/item/1599-samsung-galaxy-camera-officially-announced




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  Reply # 679459 30-Aug-2012 20:38 Send private message

old3eyes: I guess when Apple brings out the iCamera they will be suing Samsung again..

http://www.mobilekiwi.co.nz./android/item/1599-samsung-galaxy-camera-officially-announced


Oh dear - it has rounded corners and the screen looks like phones GUI... they're done for!

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  Reply # 679464 30-Aug-2012 20:49 Send private message

[sarcasm]Hmm, a camera with phone functionality. Obviously that is different to a phone with camera functionality. It no doubt meets the definition of a novel idea, they should patent the hell out of it[/sarcasm]

On a serious note - interesting. It does 3G or 4G, wifi and bluetooth.. so I assume this mean you could connect a Bluetooth headset and use it as a phone?

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  Reply # 679488 30-Aug-2012 22:00 Send private message

blair003: [sarcasm]Hmm, a camera with phone functionality. Obviously that is different to a phone with camera functionality. It no doubt meets the definition of a novel idea, they should patent the hell out of it[/sarcasm]

On a serious note - interesting. It does 3G or 4G, wifi and bluetooth.. so I assume this mean you could connect a Bluetooth headset and use it as a phone?

that is how stupid the whole thing is but who are the idiot judges behind these cases. 

Same with the whole mcdonalds hot coffee thing the judge behind that case does not deserve to be a judge   they are  total #$!% la la la la la !!! screwing up the world.

edit: surely something fishy is going on with these cases, i do not beleive they are judging fairly, they must be involved in other ways, shares? secret payments?

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  Reply # 679491 30-Aug-2012 22:02

I found this today when searching for something unrelated...

"The iPhone 4 has a solid, sturdy feel, though we didn't love its sharp corners."
reviews.cnet.com | talking about the iPhone 4's form-factor

Ironic...

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  Reply # 679523 31-Aug-2012 00:08 Send private message

qwerty7: that is how stupid the whole thing is but who are the idiot judges behind these cases. 

Same with the whole mcdonalds hot coffee thing the judge behind that case does not deserve to be a judge   they are  total #$!% la la la la la !!! screwing up the world.

edit: surely something fishy is going on with these cases, i do not beleive they are judging fairly, they must be involved in other ways, shares? secret payments?

I don't think the judge is at fault here. Judge Lucy Koh has been pretty even-handed, and hasn't shown any obvious bias either way. She has almost certainly heard of the things the jury has said to the press, including that they completely ignored her jury instructions. Chances are she'll throw out their verdict and call a mistrial, which she will be extremely pissed about. Reports indicate that she doesn't like her time being wasted.

As for the jury, I think there was a lot of bias in Apple's favour. The court isn't all that far from Apple's HQ, so there's a possible bias towards the local company. And then there's the jury foreman, a guy who holds a software patent himself (for video encoding). Look at this quote from a Bloomberg interview:
“When I got in this case and I started looking at these patents I considered: ‘If this was my patent and I was accused, could I defend it?’” Hogan explained. On the night of Aug. 22, after closing arguments, “a light bulb went on in my head,” he said. “I thought, I need to do this for all of them.”
After this, he effectively got the jury to ignore prior art on the patents, which led the jury to say that all of the patents had to be valid. If that's not bias, I don't know what is.

And the hot coffee thing wasn't as frivolous as most people think. The coffee was somewhere around 180-190 degrees F (about 85 degrees C), which is dangerously hot. We're talking third degree burns in about 5 seconds. Considering that there had been hundreds of other complaints, the court was right to punish McDonalds for their policy of serving coffee at that temperature.

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