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Topic # 111321 30-Oct-2012 12:59 Send private message

http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2012/10/google-play-australia-now-selling-movies/
http://www.mobileburn.com/20769/news/google-play-store-updated-with-new-music-movies-and-magazines
http://ausdroid.net/2012/10/25/is-the-australian-play-store-getting-ready-to-sell-phones/

C
ome on Google, that should read Australasia. Would love to buy nexus devices, music etc direct.

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  Reply # 709104 30-Oct-2012 13:01 Send private message


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  Reply # 709106 30-Oct-2012 13:04 Send private message

If only it was that easy. With the legal quagmire that is copyright and licensing, it's stupidly difficult to move into a new country. Having the Australian agreements in place might make it easier to get get NZ agreements in place, but I wouldn't count on it.

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  Reply # 709110 30-Oct-2012 13:06 Send private message

not for a while I would guess. Rights for australia and NZ are separate so Google would need to give a crap about NZ to bother negotiating for them. If theyve taken this long to get Ozzie, with tens of millions of potential customers, how much do you think they care about NZ, with only a few million potential customers.

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  Reply # 709112 30-Oct-2012 13:08 Send private message

I never understood why the Music/Movie industry had issues with copy right to places like NZ. Blocking companies from selling digital copies ENCOURAGES piracy rather that what ever it is they hope to achieve.

Android / Google has a huge reach and huge potential for sales... If we were able to purchase.

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  Reply # 709126 30-Oct-2012 13:19 Send private message

The record and movie industries want to have their cake and eat it too. They're pushing governments to bring in stronger anti-piracy laws, just so they can continue to keep their idiotic restrictive region-based licensing.

Either they don't see that the piracy is something that they've caused, or they're fully aware of it and they don't give a crap. It's stupidity, or arrogance, or both, and as consumer's we're caught in the middle and trying not to get milked like money cattle.



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  Reply # 709186 30-Oct-2012 14:51 Send private message

Still, even without the music/movies, they could at least do device sales. That would not require much in the way of legal problems. It is still too hard to find a nexus device that is not a nexus 7. You cant get the phones at any of the big three mobile vendors since vodafone stopped stocking the nexus s, so you are left with parallel importers and some computer shops to get them. Would love to at least have the option of getting a nexus 10 and nexus 4 direct through google when my bank account one day allows for it. 

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  Reply # 710067 31-Oct-2012 20:59 Send private message

paulmilbank: http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2012/10/google-play-australia-now-selling-movies/
http://www.mobileburn.com/20769/news/google-play-store-updated-with-new-music-movies-and-magazines
http://ausdroid.net/2012/10/25/is-the-australian-play-store-getting-ready-to-sell-phones/

C
ome on Google, that should read Australasia. Would love to buy nexus devices, music etc direct.


Didn't Australia sign up for a lot of US copyright law when they got their free trade agreement (pay-off for joining the invasion of Iraq) with the US?






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  Reply # 710073 31-Oct-2012 21:13 Send private message

The problem is that there is a chain of people who need to sign the agreements for video/music content

jeff licenses to jon, who in turn licenses jack, who in turn licenses to jude, who in turn licenses  to jules.

These agreements stipulate lengths of time and services and need to renegotiated when adding additional services or time.

I guess there just needs to be confidence that there is sufficient demand for the products.

More parity in copyright law is probably a good idea if we want to get things faster.  Rdio, Microsoft, Sony and Spotify can do it in NZ, Google should sooner or later.



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  Reply # 710074 31-Oct-2012 21:13 Send private message

VPN to Australia anyone? :-)

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  Reply # 710084 31-Oct-2012 21:49 Send private message

Even though I understand why Google won't provide movies to us (yet), is a mystery why we can't get the devices.... ! Grrr




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  Reply # 710114 31-Oct-2012 22:32 Send private message

DrStrangelove: VPN to Australia anyone? :-)


Reckon.

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  Reply # 710119 31-Oct-2012 22:43 Send private message

Are there companies in Aussie that do the freight thing like in the US where you can buy locally in the US and give their address and they freight forward it to you?

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  Reply # 710138 31-Oct-2012 23:16 Send private message

DrStrangelove: VPN to Australia anyone? :-)


Doesn't work unless your phone is an Aussie one (or running an Australian kernel). 

I had an Aussie SGS2 and could access their playstore from a VPN. Using the same account and same VPN with a NZ phone didn't work. 

However, even though I had paid for books whilst in Australia, they were blocked as soon as I got back to NZ. Wouldn't trust Google not to do the same thing to music & videos. 

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  Reply # 710157 1-Nov-2012 00:58 Send private message

when nz population gets at least 10 mil

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  Reply # 712049 5-Nov-2012 09:26 Send private message

Elpie:
DrStrangelove: VPN to Australia anyone? :-)


Doesn't work unless your phone is an Aussie one (or running an Australian kernel). 

I had an Aussie SGS2 and could access their playstore from a VPN. Using the same account and same VPN with a NZ phone didn't work. 

However, even though I had paid for books whilst in Australia, they were blocked as soon as I got back to NZ. Wouldn't trust Google not to do the same thing to music & videos. 

Access to the Play store is controlled by the SIM card used in the phone. For devices that don't have a SIM inserted (e.g. WiFi only tablets) then it probably falls back to your IP address.

I'm certain about the SIM card thing because there are apps that trick the Play store into thinking you're on another network (e.g. MarketAccess). I've used one of these before to get at a free app that's only available in the US for now.

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