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  Reply # 407394 21-Nov-2010 19:31 Send private message

nofam:
Neets:
wazz:
My next question is, can I find the CWM backup using Root Explorer, and copy it somewhere so I can view it from my PC and copy it right off the phone (or at least to the external sdcard)


For me at least the backup was stored on the internal sdcard under Clockworkmod\backup. You can copy it using root explorer or just plug in the usb and grab it off in windows. I got a copys on my sdcard and HDD.


Yep, it's as easy as that :)


Thanks Wazz/Neets - we like easy! :-D

Next question - just reading the pre-requisites for Doc Kalpik, and it talks about having the 2e recovery. . . .I've read the faq, but I'm still not too sure what this is?


I'm pretty sure you've got it.  If I recall you're still on Eclair.  Eclair has it as standard.  If you use the 3 button method to go to recovery (volume UP) you'll see the words 2e in the top line on the screen.  You need this in order to accept an update.zip file (it's to do with how zip files are signed as I understand).

Once you're in recovery, if just to check if it's got 2e, then just select reboot phone (first option in the list) and it will boot back up.




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  Reply # 407395 21-Nov-2010 19:40 Send private message

Neets:
nofam:
Neets:
wazz:
My next question is, can I find the CWM backup using Root Explorer, and copy it somewhere so I can view it from my PC and copy it right off the phone (or at least to the external sdcard)


For me at least the backup was stored on the internal sdcard under Clockworkmod\backup. You can copy it using root explorer or just plug in the usb and grab it off in windows. I got a copys on my sdcard and HDD.


Yep, it's as easy as that :)


Thanks Wazz/Neets - we like easy! :-D

Next question - just reading the pre-requisites for Doc Kalpik, and it talks about having the 2e recovery. . . .I've read the faq, but I'm still not too sure what this is?


I'm pretty sure you've got it.  If I recall you're still on Eclair.  Eclair has it as standard.  If you use the 3 button method to go to recovery (volume UP) you'll see the words 2e in the top line on the screen.  You need this in order to accept an update.zip file (it's to do with how zip files are signed as I understand).

Once you're in recovery, if just to check if it's got 2e, then just select reboot phone (first option in the list) and it will boot back up.



Thanks Neets - now you mention it, that does ring a bell - and as you say, I'm already able to accept update.zip files a la Voodoo lagfix.

Soooo. . . .what version of Doc's ROM should I be looking at, and are there any other issues to watch out for in terms of moving from Eclair to Froyo?  I'm pretty happy with the backup scenario, having a CWM image, and a separate copy of /efs too.




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  Reply # 407398 21-Nov-2010 19:47 Send private message

nofam:

Soooo. . . .what version of Doc's ROM should I be looking at, and are there any other issues to watch out for in terms of moving from Eclair to Froyo?  I'm pretty happy with the backup scenario, having a CWM image, and a separate copy of /efs too.


Just culling out some of the "old stuff".

I'm on v8, but the latest v8 has ironed out a few bugs so I'd say go for that.

You'll get some colour with Froyo!  If that hurts your eyes, then don't upgrade :P  There's a couple of things that have changed in the menu, can't remember what now, but I think the Wireless bit is a little different to Eclair, or was it how to get to Development for debugging mode?  Hmmm.

If you find you can't find something where it once was, just give us a yoddle.  I wasn't on Eclair long before going to an early version of Froyo so I can't remember what Eclair was like.

Oh, the power options with Froyo include the ability to disable/enable Data.  If you don't use something like Extended Controls that's quite a handy way to turn on/off mobile data.

One last thing.  Take note of your IMEI number.  Don't tell anyone what it is, but after you've flashed a Doc rom (or any Rom), make sure the IMEI has remained in tact.  It's rare for it to change, and if it does, that's where you thank your luck stars you've got a copy of the /efs - becuase that's where your IMEI files are.

One last thing [rolls eyes], women never have "one last thing".  I suggest you also get APN Backup from the market.  It's free.  Just use it to take a backup - which will save you having to manually type in all the APN stuff if it gets wiped during the flashing of a new ROM.  Having said that, I've not had to use the restore between the Doc roms I've flashed.




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  Reply # 407415 21-Nov-2010 20:53 Send private message

Neets:
nofam:

Soooo. . . .what version of Doc's ROM should I be looking at, and are there any other issues to watch out for in terms of moving from Eclair to Froyo?  I'm pretty happy with the backup scenario, having a CWM image, and a separate copy of /efs too.


Just culling out some of the "old stuff".

I'm on v8, but the latest v8 has ironed out a few bugs so I'd say go for that.

You'll get some colour with Froyo!  If that hurts your eyes, then don't upgrade :P  There's a couple of things that have changed in the menu, can't remember what now, but I think the Wireless bit is a little different to Eclair, or was it how to get to Development for debugging mode?  Hmmm.

If you find you can't find something where it once was, just give us a yoddle.  I wasn't on Eclair long before going to an early version of Froyo so I can't remember what Eclair was like.

Oh, the power options with Froyo include the ability to disable/enable Data.  If you don't use something like Extended Controls that's quite a handy way to turn on/off mobile data.

One last thing.  Take note of your IMEI number.  Don't tell anyone what it is, but after you've flashed a Doc rom (or any Rom), make sure the IMEI has remained in tact.  It's rare for it to change, and if it does, that's where you thank your luck stars you've got a copy of the /efs - becuase that's where your IMEI files are.

One last thing [rolls eyes], women never have "one last thing".  I suggest you also get APN Backup from the market.  It's free.  Just use it to take a backup - which will save you having to manually type in all the APN stuff if it gets wiped during the flashing of a new ROM.  Having said that, I've not had to use the restore between the Doc roms I've flashed.


When you say v8 Neets, do you mean the new ADJP5?  I hadn't seen this until now - how does this differ from the JPA/JPO builds previously?




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  Reply # 407421 21-Nov-2010 21:01 Send private message

nofam:
Neets:
nofam:

Soooo. . . .what version of Doc's ROM should I be looking at, and are there any other issues to watch out for in terms of moving from Eclair to Froyo?  I'm pretty happy with the backup scenario, having a CWM image, and a separate copy of /efs too.


Just culling out some of the "old stuff".

I'm on v8, but the latest v8 has ironed out a few bugs so I'd say go for that.

You'll get some colour with Froyo!  If that hurts your eyes, then don't upgrade :P  There's a couple of things that have changed in the menu, can't remember what now, but I think the Wireless bit is a little different to Eclair, or was it how to get to Development for debugging mode?  Hmmm.

If you find you can't find something where it once was, just give us a yoddle.  I wasn't on Eclair long before going to an early version of Froyo so I can't remember what Eclair was like.

Oh, the power options with Froyo include the ability to disable/enable Data.  If you don't use something like Extended Controls that's quite a handy way to turn on/off mobile data.

One last thing.  Take note of your IMEI number.  Don't tell anyone what it is, but after you've flashed a Doc rom (or any Rom), make sure the IMEI has remained in tact.  It's rare for it to change, and if it does, that's where you thank your luck stars you've got a copy of the /efs - becuase that's where your IMEI files are.

One last thing [rolls eyes], women never have "one last thing".  I suggest you also get APN Backup from the market.  It's free.  Just use it to take a backup - which will save you having to manually type in all the APN stuff if it gets wiped during the flashing of a new ROM.  Having said that, I've not had to use the restore between the Doc roms I've flashed.


When you say v8 Neets, do you mean the new ADJP5?  I hadn't seen this until now - how does this differ from the JPA/JPO builds previously?


ADJP5 is the most recent base Froyo Rom.  It doesn't seem any different to me.

It takes a bit to read through all the details Doc has on the first few posts, but this is buried in amongst it:


Change Log

V5.1.1: All kinds of bugfixes
V7: XWJPA_V7, new base; XXJPO_V7, new base
V7.0.1: JPO, fix voice search and correct build.prop
V7.1: JPA, mixed language fix, Swype fix, rebuilt base
V7.5: New modular ROM, new kernel, new busybox, ad hoc wifi support, theme fixes, build.prop fixed, removed KOR csc from JPA
V7.6: New kernel, UA string in browser, optimized adw and launcher pro. Put back stock wpa_applicant with optional ad hoc wpa_applicant. New sgs tools, gallery from jpd, JPO v7.6.1: add UA browser
V7.6.2: fixed sensor/gallerybug, fixed clock bug.
V8 ADJP5: new base (date 3 nov)
V8.0.1 ADJP5: bugfixes: alarm clock, screen capture, voice recorder, moved back some more apk's from data to system due to install errors.
Fixed auto zipalign (thanks Bo$$)




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  Reply # 407425 21-Nov-2010 21:11 Send private message

Neets: My dear husband hasn't mentioned any problem with me yakking on the phone.? He now tells me there's been a problem when it's not been convenient for him to talk at work (ahhh, gotta love him!).

I've also called numerous times using a Plantronics Discovery Bluetooth headset and again, quality has been really good.

Like R2D2 (hi - where have you been hiding?) said, no reports I've seen about the quality of voice being a problem, or sub standard.


Hi Neets. Welcome back to Planet Work. :)

I've been about the place, replacing lightbulbs, spraying spiders, asking dumb questions - that sorta thing. Mostly in the GPS theads, as it happens, so I'm guessing you haven't visited them in a bit? Hope you're enjoying your new ROM. I'm hoping we'll get 2.3 soon and we'll see what Doc and the boys can do with that. So I prolly won't update my current ROM until then. Or until somebody (such as you) waxes lyrical about some major fix to a problem I don't know I have yet, in which case I'll dump 7.5 like a hot spud and dabble once again in the black arts. :D

I am just a technoslut I'm afraid.

Cheers,
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  Reply # 407435 21-Nov-2010 21:24 Send private message

ArtooDetoo:

Hi Neets. Welcome back to Planet Work. :)

I've been about the place, replacing lightbulbs, spraying spiders, asking dumb questions - that sorta thing. Mostly in the GPS theads, as it happens, so I'm guessing you haven't visited them in a bit? Hope you're enjoying your new ROM. I'm hoping we'll get 2.3 soon and we'll see what Doc and the boys can do with that. So I prolly won't update my current ROM until then. Or until somebody (such as you) waxes lyrical about some major fix to a problem I don't know I have yet, in which case I'll dump 7.5 like a hot spud and dabble once again in the black arts. :D

I am just a technoslut I'm afraid.

Cheers,
R2D2


I really had no reason to move off V6 to V8 but I thought the battery might have been better.  V8 has practically no battery drain when it's idol.

Since powering to full last night at 9:45, my battery is showing 67%.  So since this morning (which dropped quickly when I was reading XDA in bed) it's hardly been used.

I still think it drains quickly when you do use the phone as more than a paperweight ;-)

I don't have anything I consider to be a problem with the phone, other than Handcent not audibly telling me I've got a SMS.  I still can't figure out why it's not working, despite a "test" of the notification working.  If you've got the answer to that I'd love to hear it.  It used to work just fine.




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  Reply # 407454 21-Nov-2010 22:39 Send private message

Neets:
ArtooDetoo:

Hi Neets. Welcome back to Planet Work. :)

I've been about the place, replacing lightbulbs, spraying spiders, asking dumb questions - that sorta thing. Mostly in the GPS theads, as it happens, so I'm guessing you haven't visited them in a bit? Hope you're enjoying your new ROM. I'm hoping we'll get 2.3 soon and we'll see what Doc and the boys can do with that. So I prolly won't update my current ROM until then. Or until somebody (such as you) waxes lyrical about some major fix to a problem I don't know I have yet, in which case I'll dump 7.5 like a hot spud and dabble once again in the black arts. :D

I am just a technoslut I'm afraid.

Cheers,
R2D2


I really had no reason to move off V6 to V8 but I thought the battery might have been better.? V8 has practically no battery drain when it's idol.

Since powering to full last night at 9:45, my battery is showing 67%.? So since this morning (which dropped quickly when I was reading XDA in bed) it's hardly been used.

I still think it drains quickly when you do use the phone as more than a paperweight ;-)

I don't have anything I consider to be a problem with the phone, other than Handcent not audibly telling me I've got a SMS.? I still can't figure out why it's not working, despite a "test" of the notification working.? If you've got the answer to that I'd love to hear it.? It used to work just fine.


As you know only too well by now, my noobness severely limits how much I can help so take the following with the proverbial grain of salt...

Home screen>Menu>Settings>Voice input and output>Text-to-speech settings>Driving mode = Ticked. And if that doesn't do it, then I'm fresh out of ideas. As always, if that was too simplistic by far, ignore the preceeding entirely. :)

Good luck with solving your new "feature".

Cheers,
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  Reply # 407488 22-Nov-2010 06:01 Send private message

ArtooDetoo:

Home screen>Menu>Settings>Voice input and output>Text-to-speech settings>Driving mode = Ticked. And if that doesn't do it, then I'm fresh out of ideas. As always, if that was too simplistic by far, ignore the preceeding entirely. :)

Good luck with solving your new "feature".

Cheers,
R2D2


I should have explained better.  It's not while driving. I'm at home, the phone sitting next to me.  If I didn't see the text pop up on the screen I'd have no indication I had a text message.  The sound notification doesn't play.

However, I didn't have the driving setting activated (like you described) so I've ticked that now.  And here's my noob question.  How does the phone know when I'm driving. I don't put it into a car charger or mount.




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  Reply # 407493 22-Nov-2010 07:08 Send private message

I have Tasker set to read text sender names and text bodies while I'm driving, it even pauses music playback to do it and then resumes once done! (it knows I'm driving because the contexts are power and headset plugged in).




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  Reply # 407494 22-Nov-2010 07:35 Send private message

Neets:
ArtooDetoo:

Home screen>Menu>Settings>Voice input and output>Text-to-speech settings>Driving mode = Ticked. And if that doesn't do it, then I'm fresh out of ideas. As always, if that was too simplistic by far, ignore the preceeding entirely. :)

Good luck with solving your new "feature".

Cheers,
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I should have explained better.? It's not while driving. I'm at home, the phone sitting next to me.? If I didn't see the text pop up on the screen I'd have no indication I had a text message.? The sound notification doesn't play.

However, I didn't have the driving setting activated (like you described) so I've ticked that now.? And here's my noob question.? How does the phone know when I'm driving. I don't put it into a car charger or mount.


Test

Weird. I wrote a reply and hit the submit button and the reply simply vanished. Also, the Bold, Italic, Underline and so on buttons in the post reply page have disappeared, and html mark-up is still visible. Something ain't right. Maybe Firefox acting up?

Anyway, here's the reply again. Paraphrased.

Driving mode is a misnomer - it's somebody's 'clever' marketspeak for audio notification. The only problem is that it's prolly overkill for you since it also announces calls, and reads txts I believe (I don't use it). Could be very annoying...

I use a solution that adds a red dot to your home screen messaging icons with a number representing the messages you have yet to read. I know that's not what you asked for but since it's the only other solution I can think of, I offer it anyway. If you're interested, let me know and I'll tell you what the (free) app's called.

Cheers Neets.
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  Reply # 407505 22-Nov-2010 08:28 Send private message

I took the plunge last night and upgraded to ADJP5. . . . .

Wow. . . . coming from JH1 it's like a different phone; even with the Voodoo lagfix on Eclair it still seemed jerky in comparison to to how silky-smooth and responsive it is now.

GPS seems to be slightly improved, as does web-browsing.

Eclair + VLF = dragster (raw power, great on straights)
JP5 = Ferrari (Silky smooth acceleration out of the corners)

I'm a happy little Nofam :=)

One other question occurred; back int eh day I seem to remember someone (NZTechFreak maybe?) mentioning a patch to improve the sound quality. . . . .I'm going to be replacing the head unit in my car with something that can take an aux. input, so the quality is fairly important (not that it's bad now!).

Just by-the-by, in terms of a good music player, I've been using 3 quote a bit lately, and have just discovered PowerAMP - has anyone else had a dabble with this?




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  Reply # 407521 22-Nov-2010 09:06 Send private message

ArtooDetoo:
Neets:
ArtooDetoo:

Home screen>Menu>Settings>Voice input and output>Text-to-speech settings>Driving mode = Ticked. And if that doesn't do it, then I'm fresh out of ideas. As always, if that was too simplistic by far, ignore the preceeding entirely. :)

Good luck with solving your new "feature".

Cheers,
R2D2


I should have explained better.? It's not while driving. I'm at home, the phone sitting next to me.? If I didn't see the text pop up on the screen I'd have no indication I had a text message.? The sound notification doesn't play.

However, I didn't have the driving setting activated (like you described) so I've ticked that now.? And here's my noob question.? How does the phone know when I'm driving. I don't put it into a car charger or mount.


Test

Weird. I wrote a reply and hit the submit button and the reply simply vanished. Also, the Bold, Italic, Underline and so on buttons in the post reply page have disappeared, and html mark-up is still visible. Something ain't right. Maybe Firefox acting up?

Anyway, here's the reply again. Paraphrased.

Driving mode is a misnomer - it's somebody's 'clever' marketspeak for audio notification. The only problem is that it's prolly overkill for you since it also announces calls, and reads txts I believe (I don't use it). Could be very annoying...

I use a solution that adds a red dot to your home screen messaging icons with a number representing the messages you have yet to read. I know that's not what you asked for but since it's the only other solution I can think of, I offer it anyway. If you're interested, let me know and I'll tell you what the (free) app's called.

Cheers Neets.
R2D2



Right, so if there's no way to tell you're driving, then every text message would be read out.  Hope no one sends a hot steamy message ;-)  Nah, not likely!

I have the phone set to show the number of text messages not read, but since I have it also configured to Pop up when a text message arrives I don't see this.  The indicator is no more helpful than spotting the pop up :)  but it was a good thought!

I knew NZtechfreak would have a solution from Tasker :-D




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  Reply # 407523 22-Nov-2010 09:07 Send private message

nofam: I took the plunge last night and upgraded to ADJP5. . . . .

Wow. . . . coming from JH1 it's like a different phone; even with the Voodoo lagfix on Eclair it still seemed jerky in comparison to to how silky-smooth and responsive it is now.

GPS seems to be slightly improved, as does web-browsing.

Eclair + VLF = dragster (raw power, great on straights)
JP5 = Ferrari (Silky smooth acceleration out of the corners)

I'm a happy little Nofam :=)

One other question occurred; back int eh day I seem to remember someone (NZTechFreak maybe?) mentioning a patch to improve the sound quality. . . . .I'm going to be replacing the head unit in my car with something that can take an aux. input, so the quality is fairly important (not that it's bad now!).

Just by-the-by, in terms of a good music player, I've been using 3 quote a bit lately, and have just discovered PowerAMP - has anyone else had a dabble with this?


I'd been waiting to hear your success.  Glad it's all go, go go!




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  Reply # 407546 22-Nov-2010 09:55 Send private message

I'm sticking to the 7.6.2 ROM at the moment. Trying out the JPM Modem to see if it provides better battery life. So far no improvement though. Today I'm at 66% after 12h48m with 37m of screen time and about 35 minutes of music while driving to work.




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