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  Reply # 425739 10-Jan-2011 13:22 Send private message

go onto the voodoo irc chat channel and ask a developer, it's a very active channel.




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  Reply # 425748 10-Jan-2011 14:02 Send private message

nofam: Yes, as wazz/lokhor have said, flashing kernels doesn't touch the bootloader (AFAIK), so unless something goes horribly wrong, you should always be able to reflash from Odin.

The proviso here is that you can get into Download Mode to use Odin, so you must ALWAYS make sure you can do this before thinking about using Odin.

The other essential thing is to use root explorer to grab a copy of /efs, and stow it somewhere on your PC (or external SD card).


Thanks for everyone's replies, so this is where things are getting confusing for me. So download mode? and efs?. 2.1 ain't running to bad at all for me, I put it up against my brothers Iphone 4 and it was the same speed(or faster) loading things like paper toss, contacts, music player and the phone app so I can't complain on speed to much(50ish apps installed).

EDIT: Also the warranty is kinda important to me and this will obviously invalidate it, Right? 




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  Reply # 425753 10-Jan-2011 14:10 Send private message

Yes flashing firmware or even rooting your phone invalidates warranty. You can always flash stock firmware again though assuming your phone hasn't become unusable. Download mode is accessed through a key combination I think Vol Down + Home + Power when your phone is turned off.




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  Reply # 425754 10-Jan-2011 14:12 Send private message

Shrapnel:
nofam: Yes, as wazz/lokhor have said, flashing kernels doesn't touch the bootloader (AFAIK), so unless something goes horribly wrong, you should always be able to reflash from Odin.

The proviso here is that you can get into Download Mode to use Odin, so you must ALWAYS make sure you can do this before thinking about using Odin.

The other essential thing is to use root explorer to grab a copy of /efs, and stow it somewhere on your PC (or external SD card).


Thanks for everyone's replies, so this is where things are getting confusing for me. So download mode? and efs?. 2.1 ain't running to bad at all for me, I put it up against my brothers Iphone 4 and it was the same speed(or faster) loading things like paper toss, contacts, music player and the phone app so I can't complain on speed to much(50ish apps installed).

EDIT: Also the warranty is kinda important to me and this will obviously invalidate it, Right? 


Download mode is a way of starting the phone so it is ready for manual updates and this is done using a boot while holding down three buttons:


  1. Put your phone into download mode using the three-button-combo:
    Press and hold VolumeDown+Home+Power buttons till the phone enters download mode

  2. Download mode

 
The EFS is a folder on your Samsung that contains the phones IMEI number (unique identifier) and Product code.

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  Reply # 425756 10-Jan-2011 14:23 Send private message

It all seems a little complicated, I may consider it. We'll see, man everyone replies fast here




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  Reply # 425768 10-Jan-2011 14:57 Send private message

Shrapnel: It all seems a little complicated, I may consider it. We'll see, man everyone replies fast here


Ha ha yes, there is quite a steep learning curve with all of this, but if I were you, I'd do the following:

- Root your phone so Titanium Backup works
- Backup all your apps with the above
- Backup your APN's/SMS/Call logs with the various apps by Ritesh Sahu (free, and simple to use)
- Backup /efs as discussed

If you already have the 2e recovery mode (my Vodafone Eclair ROM did), just apply the voodoo lagfix from there.

If you don't, or you're ready to move to 2.2, I'd use Odin to flash the i9000T Froyo, and then use Odin to install the Voodoo Froyo kernel (pm Supercurio to confirm this works).




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ROM: WanamLite v1.3    Kernel: Ninphetamine v1.1.0   Modem: DXLEA

SGSII (Now belongs to SWMBO)
ROM: WanamLite v12     Kernel: Siyah v3.3.2   Modem: BVLPB

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If you need a download-mode jig ASAP, you're welcome to borrow mine!  Works with SGS I/II/III.  I also have a SIM cutter available (Dunedin) - happy to post either to you at your cost.

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  Reply # 425804 10-Jan-2011 16:39 Send private message

Thanks Nofam, I probably won't try anything yet as I'm going away soon. I did email Samsung about the update and I was told it is not available for my phone on Telecom yet which weird as others have it.

"Thank you for your email, The Froyo 2.2 update has not been released for
telecom network as of yet. "

 




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  Reply # 425811 10-Jan-2011 16:57 Send private message

I've giving up on Samsung a long time ago, after they blatantly lied to me. Root your phone, back up your current firmware for warranty and don't look back with a new custom rom, imo. :>

Anyway, flashed Doc's new 7.5 base with a custom theme (cozmic) and the same hardcore kerner I've used in the previous Doc's base release from the kitchen ('i"). Incredibly quick. Now I will just wait for some other kernel to come out, but it has to be something really outstanding for me to change. 

Here is my log of the new Rom, in case anyone is interested:


This is a log file genereted using http://romkitchen.org

This ROM is using the XXJPY_Wipe.zip ROM, coupled with a hardcore_12i kernel and a jpy modem.
The theme is the cozmic theme.
WPA is standard.
The default keyboard is the samsung samsung_stock_jpy keyboard.

The exact structure of what's included:


swype_jpy keyboard
|
|-> system/app/Swype.apk
|-> system/lib/libSwypeCore.so

Root
|
|-> data/app/Quickboot.apk
|-> data/app/SGS_Tools.apk
|-> data/app/Spare_Parts.apk
|-> data/app/FasterFix.apk
|-> data/app/LCD_Density_Changer.apk
|-> system/app/AdwLauncher.apk
|-> system/app/com.ebproductions.android.launcher.apk
|-> system/app/ScreenCaptureService.apk
|-> system/app/FMRadio.apk
|-> system/app/Music_aosp.apk
|-> system/app/ChocoEUKor.apk
|-> system/app/CoolEUKor.apk
|-> system/app/RoseEUKor.apk
|-> system/app/Mms.apk




Oh and the gingerbread launcher is crap. Apart from gingerbread style scrolling in the app draw, and two different colored icons on home screen, it has nothing to offer. In fact those two icons on the home screen can not be changed! So you're stuck with phone and internet icons. hahaha... :| 

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  Reply # 425842 10-Jan-2011 18:08 Send private message

bsd1:
Shrapnel:
nofam: Yes, as wazz/lokhor have said, flashing kernels doesn't touch the bootloader (AFAIK), so unless something goes horribly wrong, you should always be able to reflash from Odin.

The proviso here is that you can get into Download Mode to use Odin, so you must ALWAYS make sure you can do this before thinking about using Odin.

The other essential thing is to use root explorer to grab a copy of /efs, and stow it somewhere on your PC (or external SD card).


Thanks for everyone's replies, so this is where things are getting confusing for me. So download mode? and efs?. 2.1 ain't running to bad at all for me, I put it up against my brothers Iphone 4 and it was the same speed(or faster) loading things like paper toss, contacts, music player and the phone app so I can't complain on speed to much(50ish apps installed).

EDIT: Also the warranty is kinda important to me and this will obviously invalidate it, Right? 


Download mode is a way of starting the phone so it is ready for manual updates and this is done using a boot while holding down three buttons:



  1. Put your phone into download mode using the three-button-combo:
    Press and hold VolumeDown+Home+Power buttons till the phone enters download mode

  2. [removed pic to save space]

2. The EFS is a folder on your Samsung that contains the phones IMEI number (unique identifier) and Product code.


Ahh yes, I remember my first time.  I was paranoid.  I almost broke out in a sweat. I didn't know if I should.  What if I couldn't get it back.

Anyway, it ended in a successful root.

But the feelings you have are normal.  I don't know of anyone that went into it without a decent amount of fear.




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  Reply # 425844 10-Jan-2011 18:12 Send private message

Wipeout: I've giving up on Samsung a long time ago, after they blatantly lied to me. Root your phone, back up your current firmware for warranty and don't look back with a new custom rom, imo. :>

Anyway, flashed Doc's new 7.5 base with a custom theme (cozmic) and the same hardcore kerner I've used in the previous Doc's base release from the kitchen ('i"). Incredibly quick. Now I will just wait for some other kernel to come out, but it has to be something really outstanding for me to change. 

Here is my log of the new Rom, in case anyone is interested:


This is a log file genereted using http://romkitchen.org

This ROM is using the XXJPY_Wipe.zip ROM, coupled with a hardcore_12i kernel and a jpy modem.
The theme is the cozmic theme.
WPA is standard.
The default keyboard is the samsung samsung_stock_jpy keyboard.

The exact structure of what's included:


swype_jpy keyboard
|
|-> system/app/Swype.apk
|-> system/lib/libSwypeCore.so

Root
|
|-> data/app/Quickboot.apk
|-> data/app/SGS_Tools.apk
|-> data/app/Spare_Parts.apk
|-> data/app/FasterFix.apk
|-> data/app/LCD_Density_Changer.apk
|-> system/app/AdwLauncher.apk
|-> system/app/com.ebproductions.android.launcher.apk
|-> system/app/ScreenCaptureService.apk
|-> system/app/FMRadio.apk
|-> system/app/Music_aosp.apk
|-> system/app/ChocoEUKor.apk
|-> system/app/CoolEUKor.apk
|-> system/app/RoseEUKor.apk
|-> system/app/Mms.apk




Oh and the gingerbread launcher is crap. Apart from gingerbread style scrolling in the app draw, and two different colored icons on home screen, it has nothing to offer. In fact those two icons on the home screen can not be changed! So you're stuck with phone and internet icons. hahaha... :| 


I take it your theme doesn't have the extended menu.

Did you not have some of those apps backed up with TB?  I decided it was a little pointless adding in all the apps that I knew were in my TB.  However I did get stuck with the MTP (for connecting with Kies), it was in my TB but becuase I didn't restore system data it wasn't included in my batch restore.

I ended up having to install the zip file.

On that (how you connect with your computer).  I connect via Kies.  never use Kies but I connect to my phone that way and end up with the Phone and Card.

I can mount but I often find with my laptop that it tells me something is still accessing the drive and I know you've got to successfully safely remove the device.

So another question, how do you access your phone via the computer?




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  Reply # 425847 10-Jan-2011 18:23 Send private message

The theme did come with an extended power menu (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882800 - look for V6 of that theme down the page). None of those apps in the log are actually my apps, it's those that I chose from the kitchen. I do have a pile of apps which have been backed up by TB tho. Have reinstated all of them without any issues.

I just connect to the laptop via mass storage device. I don't see myself ever using that piece of sh*t software (Kies). hahahaha... Mind you, I had to make sure my phone's drivers installed correctly on my laptop before I used Heimdall. Then I had to install Heimdall drivers on the top of that. So my phone is now gets picked up within two seconds of plugging it into the laptop and brings up both drives (sd/ex_sd). I just drab and dump. :>

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  Reply # 425848 10-Jan-2011 18:26 Send private message

Wipeout: The theme did come with an extended power menu. None of those apps in the log are actually my apps, it's those that I chose from the kitchen. I do have a pile of apps which have been backed up by TB tho. Have reinstated all of them without any issues.

I just connect to the laptop via mass storage device. I don't see myself ever using that piece of sh*t software (Kies). hahahaha... Mind you, I had to make sure my phone's drivers installed correctly on my laptop before I used Heimdall. Then I had to install Heimdall drivers on the top of that. So my phone is now gets picked up within two seconds of plugging it into the laptop and brings up both drives (sd/ex_sd). I just drab and dump. :>


Do you even have a problem safely removing the phone from the computer?  Must be something with my laptop.  Sometimes it happens when I want to remove the SD card (with photos on it) and my Garmin.  Haven't a clue why it does it, or how to fix it.  All programmes have been closed and it still reckons something is accessing it (phone or whatever device).




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  Reply # 425849 10-Jan-2011 18:28 Send private message

Not at all. I just click the USB symbol thing and it allows me to eject both drives safely. Click them and the msg pops up with "safe to remove your hardware". :>

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  Reply # 425859 10-Jan-2011 18:56 Send private message

Just in the interests of thoroughness, do you guys (as a rule) pull your SIM and external SD before flashing ROMs via CWM?

Or do you only do this in a 'rolling up the sleeves and getting rather firm with the phone" situation?




Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone - kindness in another's trouble, courage in your own.

SGSIII
ROM: WanamLite v1.3    Kernel: Ninphetamine v1.1.0   Modem: DXLEA

SGSII (Now belongs to SWMBO)
ROM: WanamLite v12     Kernel: Siyah v3.3.2   Modem: BVLPB

SGS
 (Cat's chew toy)

If you need a download-mode jig ASAP, you're welcome to borrow mine!  Works with SGS I/II/III.  I also have a SIM cutter available (Dunedin) - happy to post either to you at your cost.

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  Reply # 425861 10-Jan-2011 19:01 Send private message

nofam: Just in the interests of thoroughness, do you guys (as a rule) pull your SIM and external SD before flashing ROMs via CWM?

Or do you only do this in a 'rolling up the sleeves and getting rather firm with the phone" situation?


Always if I'm flashing via Odin.  Not if I'm flashing by CWM.




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