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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 501028 2-Aug-2011 20:54 Send private message

I've come across something that may be good to know if you've set up a Hotmail/Windows Live mail account in your phone.

There are 2 ways you can do this: creating a Social Hub for Windows Live account, or creating an Exchange ActiveSync account. Both methods work, but there appears to be a bug with the ActiveSync method that causes excessive data usage and battery drain. There's a thread on XDA about it.

I only found this out because designgears has removed the social hub APKs from Cognition S2, and I switched to using ActiveSync because of that. My battery life is now about 2/3 of what I was getting on stock XXKG1.

I'm going to put the minimum Social Hub stuff back on and will see how battery usage changes.

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Ultimate Geek


  Reply # 501032 2-Aug-2011 21:01 Send private message

nzgeek: I've come across something that may be good to know if you've set up a Hotmail/Windows Live mail account in your phone.

There are 2 ways you can do this: creating a Social Hub for Windows Live account, or creating an Exchange ActiveSync account. Both methods work, but there appears to be a bug with the ActiveSync method that causes excessive data usage and battery drain. There's a thread on XDA about it.

I only found this out because designgears has removed the social hub APKs from Cognition S2, and I switched to using ActiveSync because of that. My battery life is now about 2/3 of what I was getting on stock XXKG1.

I'm going to put the minimum Social Hub stuff back on and will see how battery usage changes.


I must confess I find it a little odd that people use an Android device without using Gmail as their primary cloud/e-mail provider; the whole Android platform is inextricably tied to everything else Google do; whether that's a good thing is another debate.




Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone - kindness in another's trouble, courage in your own.

SGSIII
ROM: WanamLite v1.3    Kernel: Ninphetamine v1.1.0   Modem: DXLEA

SGSII (Now belongs to SWMBO)
ROM: WanamLite v12     Kernel: Siyah v3.3.2   Modem: BVLPB

SGS
 (Cat's chew toy)

If you need a download-mode jig ASAP, you're welcome to borrow mine!  Works with SGS I/II/III.  I also have a SIM cutter available (Dunedin) - happy to post either to you at your cost.

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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 501047 2-Aug-2011 21:23 Send private message

nofam: I must confess I find it a little odd that people use an Android device without using Gmail as their primary cloud/e-mail provider; the whole Android platform is inextricably tied to everything else Google do; whether that's a good thing is another debate.

I've been a Hotmail user since 1996 or 1997, back before it was bought by Microsoft. I've used it for so long that it's hard to give up on it.

My phone is currently set up with 4 email accounts (Hotmail, GMail, work's Exchange server, and my ISP's IMAP server), a Twitter account, and a Skype account (that's usually signed out). I'm used to a bit of battery usage, but ActiveSync + Hotmail is just insane. 

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Ultimate Geek


  Reply # 501052 2-Aug-2011 21:32 Send private message

nzgeek:
nofam: I must confess I find it a little odd that people use an Android device without using Gmail as their primary cloud/e-mail provider; the whole Android platform is inextricably tied to everything else Google do; whether that's a good thing is another debate.

I've been a Hotmail user since 1996 or 1997, back before it was bought by Microsoft. I've used it for so long that it's hard to give up on it.

My phone is currently set up with 4 email accounts (Hotmail, GMail, work's Exchange server, and my ISP's IMAP server), a Twitter account, and a Skype account (that's usually signed out). I'm used to a bit of battery usage, but ActiveSync + Hotmail is just insane. 


I was a Hotmail member from 1996 until 2006, but Gmail made me realize how much I hated the newer Hotmail interfaces.  I've never looked back really.

In case other people don't know (I'm sure you do nzgeek!), Gmail is very good at 'scrapiing' other e-mail accounts to make mail send/receive transparently through it's Gmail front-end, whilst still appearing to come from the other providers. . . . .I've found it a neat way to tidy up multiple accounts/providers.




Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone - kindness in another's trouble, courage in your own.

SGSIII
ROM: WanamLite v1.3    Kernel: Ninphetamine v1.1.0   Modem: DXLEA

SGSII (Now belongs to SWMBO)
ROM: WanamLite v12     Kernel: Siyah v3.3.2   Modem: BVLPB

SGS
 (Cat's chew toy)

If you need a download-mode jig ASAP, you're welcome to borrow mine!  Works with SGS I/II/III.  I also have a SIM cutter available (Dunedin) - happy to post either to you at your cost.

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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 501064 2-Aug-2011 21:56 Send private message

nofam:
nzgeek:
nofam: I must confess I find it a little odd that people use an Android device without using Gmail as their primary cloud/e-mail provider; the whole Android platform is inextricably tied to everything else Google do; whether that's a good thing is another debate.

I've been a Hotmail user since 1996 or 1997, back before it was bought by Microsoft. I've used it for so long that it's hard to give up on it.

My phone is currently set up with 4 email accounts (Hotmail, GMail, work's Exchange server, and my ISP's IMAP server), a Twitter account, and a Skype account (that's usually signed out). I'm used to a bit of battery usage, but ActiveSync + Hotmail is just insane. 


I was a Hotmail member from 1996 until 2006, but Gmail made me realize how much I hated the newer Hotmail interfaces.  I've never looked back really.

In case other people don't know (I'm sure you do nzgeek!), Gmail is very good at 'scrapiing' other e-mail accounts to make mail send/receive transparently through it's Gmail front-end, whilst still appearing to come from the other providers. . . . .I've found it a neat way to tidy up multiple accounts/providers.

I can't remember the last time I actually had to use the web interface to Hotmail. I've got Outlook at work (using the Windows Live Connector), Windows Live Mail at home, and my phone when I'm on the go. That's probably a big part of why I don't really mind Hotmail Laughing.

GMail is pretty good at linking with other email accounts that provide POP access. I just prefer to keep my email accounts fairly separate, just in case... (where's that tin-foil hat?!?!?)

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Uber Geek
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  Reply # 501110 3-Aug-2011 00:22 Send private message

guys i'm using vodafone australia and don't want to lose carrier specific settings. therefore only flashing chainfire kernel, no rom.

need to find the correct one to flash from this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399

can anyone tell me if the letters code for anything? eg

" XX_OXA_KF2-v4.0-CWM4.zip
ZS_OZS_KF4-v4.0-CWM4.zip
XW_CLK_KF3-v4.0-CWM4.zip
XX_OXA_KG1-v4.1-CWM4.zip
XW_MOT_KG1-v4.1-CWM4.zip
ZS_OZS_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
JP_XSG_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
XX_OXA_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip "

the australian forums say the latest firmware is KF4 for VFAU. but ZS-OZS?? what's that!




Apologies for poor typing standards when on Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE/iPad 2 Wifi

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Master Geek


  Reply # 501113 3-Aug-2011 00:28 Send private message

Any idea why my battery meter doesn't show Android OS anymore?

Please take a look at the photos attached.
Thanks. 

Note that it was 25% left at 13hours, 16 hours makes battery looks decent because I've been at movies (captain america..) and phone was in gf's bag untouched for 3 hours..

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/blog511bed95ad4e2ff6f23018bab8539151.jpg

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/blogf675678de2ab06e5af6e0df6e6f92b65.jpg

Screenshots of 'Android System' broken down -

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/blog222c672bc586d7360436b0f38f5fc31d.jpg

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/blogb88b93673357e200172afecaab211995.jpg

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/bloge544c010eaf7f3158759cd8730d3eca2.jpg 

Also at one stage it was on the same percentage for few hours:

Display               79%
Android system    7%
Cell standby        5%
Phone idle          4%
Voice calls           2%

 I thought it was stuck but the time on battery was increasing so it wasn't completely stuck. Just thought I'd put it out there. 

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Wannabe Geek


  Reply # 501197 3-Aug-2011 10:00 Send private message

weird, my one still has android os. (2.3.4 - KG2 chainfire)
after last battery it was 44% still pretty average

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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 501214 3-Aug-2011 10:27 Send private message

joker97: guys i'm using vodafone australia and don't want to lose carrier specific settings. therefore only flashing chainfire kernel, no rom.

need to find the correct one to flash from this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399

The kernel doesn't need to 100% match the ROM in order for it to be used. I'd suggest looking at the KG6 kernel from this post, or even Ninphetamine or SpeedMod. All of them are rooted kernels with CWM.

Ninphetamine and SpeedMod are probably slightly better choices than CF-Root. CF-Root is a stock binary kernel with some tweaks applied, whereas the others are built from source code. You can apply a greater range of tweaks to the source code, which means you can get better performance and battery life out of the phone.

everybodylovesfebs: Any idea why my battery meter doesn't show Android OS anymore?

grdwalker: weird, my one still has android os. (2.3.4 - KG2 chainfire)
after last battery it was 44% still pretty average

Are either of you using a custom ROM and/or kernel? I'm on Cognition S2 v1.31 + SpeedMod kernel K1 T17, and I don't see Android OS in my list either.

It's possible that a ROM customisation is hiding the process from the list, or that a source-built kernel contains tweaks that make Android OS use less CPU. I think it's worth trying to figure this out, because if it's a kernel thing then we may have a fairly easy way to increase battery life.

Edit: changed bits regarding Android OS usage

Update:
everybodylovesfebs: That's nice but all I changed is my kernel from cf root to hardcore speedmod while on same rom. on cf root I was around 22 & 25% ish for os and system..

Bit dramatic effect..

Looks to be a kernel thing then. I'm guessing that Hardcore has fixed whatever bug was causing high Android OS usage. I might stick with this kernel for a bit and see how things go.

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Master Geek


  Reply # 501218 3-Aug-2011 10:32 Send private message

That's nice but all I changed is my kernel from cf root to hardcore speedmod while on same rom. on cf root I was around 22 & 25% ish for os and system..
Bit dramatic effect..

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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 501221 3-Aug-2011 10:34 Send private message

joker97: the australian forums say the latest firmware is KF4 for VFAU. but ZS-OZS?? what's that!


That is the CSC for one of the stock Asian ROM for Hong Kong & Taiwan, nothing to do with Australian ROM, although I can understand how you thought it did with OZS

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Ultimate Geek


  Reply # 501222 3-Aug-2011 10:36 Send private message

everybodylovesfebs: That's nice but all I changed is my kernel from cf root to hardcore speedmod while on same rom. on cf root I was around 22 & 25% ish for os and system..

Bit dramatic effect..


The Speedmod kernel has the logging that provides this metric disabled ;-)




Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone - kindness in another's trouble, courage in your own.

SGSIII
ROM: WanamLite v1.3    Kernel: Ninphetamine v1.1.0   Modem: DXLEA

SGSII (Now belongs to SWMBO)
ROM: WanamLite v12     Kernel: Siyah v3.3.2   Modem: BVLPB

SGS
 (Cat's chew toy)

If you need a download-mode jig ASAP, you're welcome to borrow mine!  Works with SGS I/II/III.  I also have a SIM cutter available (Dunedin) - happy to post either to you at your cost.

192 posts

Master Geek


  Reply # 501225 3-Aug-2011 10:38 Send private message

If that's true Isn't that cheating to show user deceptive stats?

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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 501227 3-Aug-2011 10:44 Send private message

nofam:
everybodylovesfebs: That's nice but all I changed is my kernel from cf root to hardcore speedmod while on same rom. on cf root I was around 22 & 25% ish for os and system..

Bit dramatic effect..


The Speedmod kernel has the logging that provides this metric disabled ;-)

(I think I went overboard editing my last post, trying to avoid multi-posting...)

Hardcore you little sneak... and here I was thinking that maybe he'd worked some magic and made the process use less CPU. Nope, it's using the CPU, we just can't report on it.

825 posts

Ultimate Geek


  Reply # 501245 3-Aug-2011 11:25 Send private message

nzgeek:
nofam:
everybodylovesfebs: That's nice but all I changed is my kernel from cf root to hardcore speedmod while on same rom. on cf root I was around 22 & 25% ish for os and system..

Bit dramatic effect..


The Speedmod kernel has the logging that provides this metric disabled ;-)

(I think I went overboard editing my last post, trying to avoid multi-posting...)

Hardcore you little sneak... and here I was thinking that maybe he'd worked some magic and made the process use less CPU. Nope, it's using the CPU, we just can't report on it.


Not really - the logging imposes a reasonable overhead, so he turned it off to save battery. . . . there's a certain logic there.




Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone - kindness in another's trouble, courage in your own.

SGSIII
ROM: WanamLite v1.3    Kernel: Ninphetamine v1.1.0   Modem: DXLEA

SGSII (Now belongs to SWMBO)
ROM: WanamLite v12     Kernel: Siyah v3.3.2   Modem: BVLPB

SGS
 (Cat's chew toy)

If you need a download-mode jig ASAP, you're welcome to borrow mine!  Works with SGS I/II/III.  I also have a SIM cutter available (Dunedin) - happy to post either to you at your cost.

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