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  Reply # 487137 28-Jun-2011 20:51 Send private message

Don't get me wrong, up to 720p flash is great, and even at 720p its very smooth with just the occasional hitch. Its just that coming from the SGSII which can playback 1080p flash in the browser like its on your desktop its marginally disappointing (since even with the MHL cable it can't output the flash video at that resolution it is of course a bit academic).

Android OS has actually never been that good at video, or at least it hasn't been if you exclude Samsung devices (and to a lesser extent LG devices, HTC has only just started recently to increase codec support to include stuff like divx).




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  Reply # 487139 28-Jun-2011 20:59 Send private message

NZtechfreak: Don't get me wrong, up to 720p flash is great, and even at 720p its very smooth with just the occasional hitch. Its just that coming from the SGSII which can playback 1080p flash in the browser like its on your desktop its marginally disappointing (since even with the MHL cable it can't output the flash video at that resolution it is of course a bit academic).

Android OS has actually never been that good at video, or at least it hasn't been if you exclude Samsung devices (and to a lesser extent LG devices, HTC has only just started recently to increase codec support to include stuff like divx).


I get that 1080p is proving a challenge, but how about playback of 720p mkv material? Both on the device itself, and on a connected TV (through HDMI)?

What video player app are you finding gives the best performance?

I have a desire at the moment and think it's pretty likely I'll get a Sensation shortly - but I have always said I'd wait until there's a phone I can realistically use as a media player with an HDMI connection for when I am travelling.

What connector are you using specifically, and how much did it cost?

Cheers - N


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  Reply # 487143 28-Jun-2011 21:08 Send private message

It does better with 720p, but if watching it for video is very important then you want an SGSII, rather than a Sensation.

I have two MHL adapters, one is a prototype from the MHL consortium, the other is an official Samsung one. They both work the same (strangely they both glitch in the app drawer and homescreens, but nowhere else, I'm wondering if HTC have increased the framerate for UI elements and its a refresh rate thing - perfect elsewhere like in-app and stuff).

They are in very short supply at the moment, but can be purchased from UK online tech stores like Clove/mobilefun/handtec etc. Given the SGSII has been out on Vodafone NZ a little while they should be available here soon, perhaps even the official HTC ones (but at present I've not seen those anywhere, they should be no different regardless, since its a connection standard).

They cost in the order of 14-20 pounds.




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  Reply # 487144 28-Jun-2011 21:10 Send private message

NZtechfreak: OK, getting to grips with the Sensation (been Tweeting up a storm, hard to resist making adding a hash tag to that "Sensation"!).

My MHL cables both work (go standard connections).

WiiMotes don't work, didn't expect them to.

BT keyboard works, BT Mouse pairs, but not properly supported.

Phonejoy works (tried out with Mario kart 64 in N64oid, awesomesauce!).

Video playback proving problematic with most of my test files (wide variety of codecs/bitrates/resolutions/audio encoding types), even with Diceplayer, Moboplayer, Rockplayer. Bit disappointing, since it kinda makes the MHL-out less useful. Doesn play 1080p MP4 well though, and Diceplayer can handle some of the MKVs (even the one with DTS sound and a 9500kbps bitrate).

Already had one out of memory warning.

Browser is lovely with the screen resolution, but quite a bit slower than SGSII, and handles flash much worse too. Love the dynamic reflow though!

Sound quality for music is better based on my limited playback so far (via line out to the car stereo).

Tasker more compatible than with my SGSII, although still can't handle picking up calls (not the fault of either phone, its a Gingerbread thing).

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  Reply # 487145 28-Jun-2011 21:11 Send private message

NZtechfreak: It does better with 720p, but if watching it for video is very important then you want an SGSII, rather than a Sensation.

I have two MHL adapters, one is a prototype from the MHL consortium, the other is an official Samsung one. They both work the same (strangely they both glitch in the app drawer and homescreens, but nowhere else, I'm wondering if HTC have increased the framerate for UI elements and its a refresh rate thing - perfect elsewhere like in-app and stuff).

They are in very short supply at the moment, but can be purchased from UK online tech stores like Clove/mobilefun/handtec etc. Given the SGSII has been out on Vodafone NZ a little while they should be available here soon, perhaps even the official HTC ones (but at present I've not seen those anywhere, they should be no different regardless, since its a connection standard).

They cost in the order of 14-20 pounds.


Cool - thanks for the feedback... I really like a couple of other things about the Sensation (concave screen, slightly higher res, SenseUI) so I might hold off for a while to see how the video playback on the sensation pans out.

Sounds like you've played with both though. If nothing else I'll bide my time a little longer.

Cheers - N


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  Reply # 487147 28-Jun-2011 21:13 Send private message

Foo:
NZtechfreak: OK, getting to grips with the Sensation (been Tweeting up a storm, hard to resist making adding a hash tag to that "Sensation"!)....

For more up to the minute posts follow Twitter.


What's your twitter name? 


nztechfreak? http://twitter.com/#!/NZtechfreak

 





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  Reply # 487149 28-Jun-2011 21:15 Send private message

nakedmolerat:
Foo:
NZtechfreak: OK, getting to grips with the Sensation (been Tweeting up a storm, hard to resist making adding a hash tag to that "Sensation"!)....

For more up to the minute posts follow Twitter.


What's your twitter name? 


nztechfreak? http://twitter.com/#!/NZtechfreak

 


Ah, yes, that seems so obvious now, however I didn't see Twitter listed in his profile! Foot in mouth 

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  Reply # 487151 28-Jun-2011 21:26 Send private message

Oh, good point about updating my profile doh!




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  Reply # 487154 28-Jun-2011 21:37 Send private message

NZtechfreak: Oh, good point about updating my profile doh!


and now it's like it was there all the time Smile

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  Reply # 487158 28-Jun-2011 21:44 Send private message

DicePlayer has hardware acceleration on the HTC Sensation and supports mkv + subtitles. Trial + Paid version here: https://market.android.com/developer?pub=inisoft




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  Reply # 487202 28-Jun-2011 23:23 Send private message

Yep, I was trying those vids with Diceplayer! Even on the SGSII I need Diceplayer to decode video with DTS encoded sound.




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  Reply # 487239 29-Jun-2011 08:23 Send private message

I need to get me an MHL cable!




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  Reply # 487242 29-Jun-2011 08:43 Send private message

nakedmolerat:
NzBeagle:
old3eyes: Well that's debatable.  I have had several 850/2100 fones on both Vodafone and 2D  3G with no problems.  The only time I ever had an issue was out of the back end of Auckland where even GSM coverage was a no show as well..


As I said, Nationwide 3G :)  



there is no point using smartphone if you cant have good 3G coverage!



Depends if you only want to talk and text.  Not everyone wants to use megabytes of data all the time.    Smart fones are ideal for SMS..

My wife bought a SGS1 recently  because it's nice a nice big screen for SMS,  and game playing  not for surfing the web and running the latest  data hungry apps.. 




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  Reply # 487290 29-Jun-2011 10:01 Send private message

That makes little sense, it's like buying a car so you can listen to the radio. 




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  Reply # 487337 29-Jun-2011 11:07 Send private message

lokhor: That makes little sense, it's like buying a car so you can listen to the radio. 


I disagree. I used to hate TXTing on my old phone. Having to triple-tap keys to get the desired letter, and poor predictive text implementations always drove me insane! I even got the kids to record a custom TXT tone for me saying "Why doesn't anyone understand? I don't do TXT!"

I now have an iPhone, and TXTing is no longer a chore. It is also a lot easier to retain context in a TXT conversation, and from what I've seen of Android TXTing apps, the same would apply there. 

So, while I do use my phone for more than just TXTing, I can certainly see the use case for someone buying a smartphone to primarily obtain a vastly superior TXTing experience. And that would often only be the tip of the iceberg; as the user understands the power they now wield in their hand. My wife is an excellent example of this. She is not one to generally embrace technology, but she's taken to her smartphone like a fish to water, and wouldn't contemplate ever going back to a lesser featured phone now.

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