Rewiring house for Structured Cabling...

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sonyxperiageek

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Topic # 114353 16-Feb-2013 22:16
Hi, I was thinking of rewiring the house with either CAT 5e or 6 and linking it to a Home Distribution Box in the Garage.. but am not 100% sure of the names of the equipment needed. So could someone please kindly help me whip up an equipment and tools list based on my specs down below? Thanks. So I have four bedrooms and would like to add two RJ45 outlets (data and phone if possible) and either 1 or two RG6 cables for TV, each room. Then I would like to add maybe four RJ45s and two RG6 outlets in the lounge. I heard that Amdex isn't quite good? And I would like a decent sized cabinet to house all the panels etc (in the garage..) Which sized cabinet would be good please? Cheers and Thanks in Advance! Me: My TechSite - NZ TechBlog A bit about Me My Twitter My Geekzone blog

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Reply # 763612 16-Feb-2013 22:38
You probably want to make sure you pull four cables or at least put in four ports on the faceplate. You'll only ever need more!

shrub

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Reply # 763637 17-Feb-2013 01:20
Go with cat6 if you can get it cheap enough and run 2 to each bedroom (computer/tv).try match whatever faceplates are in the house more than likely PDL/dynamix keystones. In the garage id go with 10" cabinet http://www.cablesdirect.co.nz/catalog/entry?entry=465&page_number=1

sonyxperiageek

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Reply # 763647 17-Feb-2013 02:58
shrub: Go with cat6 if you can get it cheap enough and run 2 to each bedroom (computer/tv).try match whatever faceplates are in the house more than likely PDL/dynamix keystones. In the garage id go with 10" cabinet http://www.cablesdirect.co.nz/catalog/entry?entry=465&page_number=1 So I see that the 10" cabinets have a width of 280mm. Will this fit on a stud? Aren't studs 600mm apart? Thanks. Me: My TechSite - NZ TechBlog A bit about Me My Twitter My Geekzone blog

sonyxperiageek

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Reply # 763648 17-Feb-2013 03:01
kyhwana2: You probably want to make sure you pull four cables or at least put in four ports on the faceplate. You'll only ever need more! Ok, so four out of each bedroom. How many do you suggest for the lounge? (RG6 and CAT?) Me: My TechSite - NZ TechBlog A bit about Me My Twitter My Geekzone blog

sonyxperiageek

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Reply # 763649 17-Feb-2013 03:04
So does anyone know what is the device I put in my cabinet that connects up the TV cables? Is it just an amplified splitter? Me: My TechSite - NZ TechBlog A bit about Me My Twitter My Geekzone blog

DarthKermit

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Reply # 763663 17-Feb-2013 09:09
Do you have sufficient room either above or below to drill holes through the dwangs in the walls to run your cables? I'd recommend that you drill at least 25 mm holes for your wires. You'll probably need several extension thingys to get enough depth to drill that far. I'll upload a pic or two of some of the gear I used later.

sonyxperiageek

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Reply # 763669 17-Feb-2013 09:32
Please do DarthKermit.. Thanks. Me: My TechSite - NZ TechBlog A bit about Me My Twitter My Geekzone blog

chevrolux

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Reply # 763686 17-Feb-2013 10:28
10" caninets look really cool and are great for just really small networks. The biggest switch you will fit in it is about an 8-port. There wont be room for a TV amplifier. You would have to mount the amp next to the cabinet. I would only run 1 RG6 and 2 Cat 6 to each bedroom. RG6 is old school now and you can distribute HDMI over a single Cat 6.

DarthKermit

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Reply # 763711 17-Feb-2013 11:50
sonyxperiageek: Please do DarthKermit.. Thanks. OK, here ya go: This is some of the gear I've used for drilling holes around my house for networking and other services. 1. Is a bi-metal holesaw, good for drilling through any nails you might encounter. I've got an 11 piece kit of these in various sizes. 2. Is a standard spade bit and a 300 mm * 1/4" extension. I prefer the thicker extensions in #3 as they're much stronger and stiffer. 3. Is a 500 mm long auger bit and 3 extensions. All combined, they are about 1.6 metres long. I've purchased extra extensions as needed to be able to drill further. The chain at the top of the pic is to drop down the hole after drilling. With little effort, it will tend to snake itself down through the holes to the bottom. This is much better than tying a nut onto a string and dropping it down the hole. All this gear I've collected isn't cheap, but it makes life a lot easier for DIY I've found.

shrub

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Reply # 763718 17-Feb-2013 12:31
10" 9u is W280 x D200 x H462mm so u can get 2x12port patch and have plenty of room for tv cables and network switches etc. If your going to go for a server in the rack then get a bigger cabinet but for switches and distribution it is big enough. Try locate the cabinet close to power.

sonyxperiageek

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Reply # 763738 17-Feb-2013 13:10
shrub: 10" 9u is W280 x D200 x H462mm so u can get 2x12port patch and have plenty of room for tv cables and network switches etc. If your going to go for a server in the rack then get a bigger cabinet but for switches and distribution it is big enough. Try locate the cabinet close to power. Yup, the place where I want it to go is right beside two power points.. So is the cabinet supposed to fit on the studs? Cheers, Me: My TechSite - NZ TechBlog A bit about Me My Twitter My Geekzone blog

sonyxperiageek

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Reply # 763740 17-Feb-2013 13:13
chevrolux: 10" caninets look really cool and are great for just really small networks. The biggest switch you will fit in it is about an 8-port. There wont be room for a TV amplifier. You would have to mount the amp next to the cabinet. I would only run 1 RG6 and 2 Cat 6 to each bedroom. RG6 is old school now and you can distribute HDMI over a single Cat 6. So the TV distribution thing is actually just a powered tv signal amplifier with extra ports? How do I distribute HDMI over Cat 6? Me: My TechSite - NZ TechBlog A bit about Me My Twitter My Geekzone blog

shrub

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Reply # 763741 17-Feb-2013 13:14
tru get the hinge side of the cabinet on a stud and use gib screws for the light side will be fine

sonyxperiageek

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Reply # 763750 17-Feb-2013 13:24
So the equipment I'm thinking of is stated down below.. please share tips if possible.. thanks. 10" Cabinet 305M CAT 6 cable Patch Panel and Switch ... - What is used between these two? Telephone hub - how to use this to connect to RJ45s? Will either data or phone be able to work on one RJ45 port? modem/router - using my Netgear. TV amplifier RG6 cables Dynamix faceplates Me: My TechSite - NZ TechBlog A bit about Me My Twitter My Geekzone blog

chevrolux

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Reply # 763859 17-Feb-2013 19:21
That list looks pretty good. You will get 12 port patch panels. So if you have say 14 outlets you could use the end of that panel for phone distribution. Just common up the blue pair on as many outlets as you need for phone. I tend to think only one phone outlet is required to feed a DECT base station and then just have as many DECT handsets as you would like. While you are doing this run a new cable to the ETP for the incoming line and then in the future it will become an ethernet feed when you get UFB installed. Is the cabinet going to be in a place where the wireless from your router going to have enough coverage? You may want run a cable for a wireless access point if it is a long way away from most of your wireless devices. I used a 10" cabinet for my parents house so will pop around in the next few days and take some photos and post them in here. HDMI distribution gets done with hdmi extenders. They are pricey though so just get sets for the tv you want to get hdmi.

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