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Topic # 73367 12-Dec-2010 22:12 Send private message

A friend of mine was given this Nokia 2730 Classic from a telco for staying with them for another 2 long years.

a week after he got the phone it was in the pants pocket when it went through the wash.

Strangely enough it no longer works.

He gave me the phone and told me if I can get it working I can have it as he has already bought another one.

Does anyone know which part of this phone may have been damaged to make it not work anymore?

It was over a month ago when it happened so I assume it has dried out by now.

The phone was switched on when it went in the wash if that makes a difference.

He has tried it with a good battery from an identical model phone but it wouldn't start up.

Basically the thing wont start up. If I can get it pulled apart, what would i look for/replace to get it working again – likely suspects that is – obviously you wont know without looking at it.




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  Reply # 425051 7-Jan-2011 20:08 Send private message

Damn! if it had been put straight into a hot water cupboard for a week then turned on you may have had some luck but now that a month or so has past then it may be past it. Its a shame really as it looks like a cool phone. But you could always open it up and see it any of the PCB tracks are bridged, dont forget your magnifying glass!

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  Reply # 425059 7-Jan-2011 20:30 Send private message

Why assume it has dried out? Put 1cm of water in a glass in your kitchen and see how long it takes to disappear....

My years as Corporate Mobile Specialist taught me that approx 95%+ of wet phones go on to die completely within weeks.

The remainder seemed to be a combination of dumb luck and drying the phone out immediately, with a possible bias towards phones that were off at the time.

Related tales for reasons of mirth:

#1 - extends hand to me, offers phone (Early CDMA 6385), I take it and ask "Whats up?". Reply was "Aw yeah it's been sitting submerged in a sewer pipe for about an hour before I found it.". I dropped the phone, walked away, and washed my hands for several minutes.

#2 - colleague fields phone call "I got my phone wet," (also a 6385) "it was on my belt clip and I went for a dip at the beach without thinking. Then I figured because it was wet with saltwater, I would rinse it thoroughly under the tap, then figured being wet was no good, so put it in the oven for about an hour." (I s*** you not).




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  Reply # 425063 7-Jan-2011 20:40 Send private message

My father had a similar situation.

It was some old Ericsson, years old - went thru the wash - he put it in the oven for an hour, low temp and it worked for just long enough to get his phone book off (by hand)

Any kind of water + time / suvivability = totally depends on the phone and pure dumb luck...


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  Reply # 425076 8-Jan-2011 01:04 Send private message

MooPoo: a week after he got the phone it was in the pants pocket when it went through the wash.


Too bad...

MooPoo: Strangely enough it no longer works.


"Strangely enough"? I have news for you: electronics and water don't mix well.

MooPoo: He gave me the phone and told me if I can get it working I can have it as he has already bought another one.


He gave it to you because it isn't going to work. If it had a chance of working your friend would have kept it.

MooPoo: Does anyone know which part of this phone may have been damaged to make it not work anymore?


The whole thing probably.

MooPoo: It was over a month ago when it happened so I assume it has dried out by now.


Yes, it's dry now. And also corroded everywhere.

MooPoo: He has tried it with a good battery from an identical model phone but it wouldn't start up.


It will never start again.

MooPoo: Basically the thing wont start up.


Sounds about right.

MooPoo: If I can get it pulled apart, what would i look for/replace to get it working again – likely suspects that is – obviously you wont know without looking at it.


You could replace the entire handset. It will save you the work of pulling it apart.

[If you haven't noticed the entire post is supposed to be loaded with sarcasm. Reality is, this phone is good for a trash can now]

 




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  Reply # 425091 8-Jan-2011 04:48 Send private message

It is unlikely to work again, though you are jumping to a few conclusions Freitasm, not to mention your post wasn't exactly pleasant to read......

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  Reply # 425092 8-Jan-2011 05:12 Send private message

I found it rather pleasant to read. It gave me such joy! Laughter was shared among me and a friend of mine upon reading of his delightful post.
Especially when my friend started sharing his laughter while rolling on the floor, something I found rather delightful.

BTW the longer this thread goes, the deader the phone will get - good news though, the longer this topic gets, the cheaper new phones will be.



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  Reply # 425120 8-Jan-2011 09:33 Send private message

As the OP I didn't think Freitasm's post was very nice either.

I would have thought a better example would have been set than a barrage of sarcasm like that.

Picking apart my posts bit by bit is rather nasty and can hardly be called anything but a personal attack.




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  Reply # 425122 8-Jan-2011 09:34 Send private message

The phone is dead, buy a new one.

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  Reply # 425123 8-Jan-2011 09:35 Send private message

I'm sorry but I do think that some common sense is needed some time. It's water over electronics, including batteries. The previous owner didn't do anything to save the phone immediately after the event. Corresion settles in.

Going through wash is not the same as a couple of rain drops falling on the screen.

And yes, it's sarcasm. I didn't know this was one form that was revoked by the PC police.

 




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  Reply # 425127 8-Jan-2011 09:49 Send private message

MooPoo, heres a simple test - do you own a small clock radio?

Go to the fill up the sink full of water, plug your clock radio into the wall, insert clock radio into the wall, then drop into sink... Stand back!

Here you will have the point he was trying to convey with sarcasm.





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  Reply # 425129 8-Jan-2011 10:05 Send private message

I am fully aware what happens when electronics meet water. I don't need that pointed out to me with sarcasm.

I was using sarcasm myself when I said "strangely it doesn't work any more". Obviously I need to put smiley faces or something on it to convey this so I don't become the recipient of a barrage of insults.

I asked the question as I know little about phones and thought on the off chance there may have been a part that stops everything working when it gets wet and some parts that don't get affected and if it was possible to just replace that part.

It kind of defeats the purpose of having a forum when people that ask questions (dumb or not) get slagged off at for asking them.

And to get slagged off at by the administrator of the forum who is there to keep everyone else in line adds salt to the wound.

Why would anyone ask another question if they can expect this kind of treatment?

Luckily I have a thick skin, but others that follow may not.




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  Reply # 425131 8-Jan-2011 10:09 Send private message

MooPoo: Why would anyone ask another question if they can expect this kind of treatment?

Luckily I have a thick skin, but others that follow may not.


Because the biggest problem around forums is exactly that... How to make sure people posting the questions don't post something dumb. This is what is happening at Quora right now, with higher quality questions and answers than Yahoo! Answers for example. This is discussed in a post on Techcrunch today.

The main thing is when a newbie asks a question we know/understand there is a chance they don't really know about the topic.

But when someone with a thick skin (proven for being around here for some time and having a good number of posts already) posts a question that is almost at newbie level, then I really got ticked off.

It was sarcasm, not insult. I am sorry if you understood the wrong way.








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  Reply # 425134 8-Jan-2011 10:16 Send private message

No problem Freitasm.

It was a newbie question from me to begin with.

At the end of the day I dont really give a toss, as you say i have been here long enough to not get worked up about things like this, but I just thought you could have set a better example.

No harm done.

Cheers




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  Reply # 425178 8-Jan-2011 12:44 Send private message

I've got a 2730 you can have for $40... still working! I'm on the same plan as your friend and I decided the phone is not for me.

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  Reply # 425181 8-Jan-2011 12:50 Send private message

blakamin: I've got a 2730 you can have for $40... still working! I'm on the same plan as your friend and I decided the phone is not for me.
Ah replacement parts for the dead one!

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