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  Reply # 539031 29-Oct-2011 16:12 Send private message

I love Geekzone. This discussion would have become troll and fanboy city in most places around the internet. Very good advice going on here, well done everyone!

I think everyone here has covered things well, so don't feel particularly pressured to add my 2c.

I will say that the GPU discussion is a bit esoteric based on what the OP said their use would look like, probably not adding a lot of value to the OP's decision making process, and more likely needlessly confusing it. For his use any of these phones should be just fine.

Reading between the lines it looks like the OP will need a reasonable amount of storage, in which case the SGSII probably becomes the front runner with a 32GB card. 64GB cards do work, as discussed, but their price is prohibitive right now - depending on how long you intend to own the phone for that does increase the future proofing, since they will be cheaper later, and 128GB cards should also work in the fullness of time. The Galaxy SII is confirmed to be getting the latest version of the Android OS (Ice Cream Sandwich), so again reasonable future proofing in that regard. 

EDIT: Oh, as someone mentioned earlier - my blog will have indepth reviews on the Nexus, Galaxy Note, and Motorola Razr in the month of November, and you can check out my review on the Galaxy S II at Clove also. At the risk of sounding immodest I think it is one of the best reviews on the internet, mostly for the fact that its a proper users review unlike most of what is out there (other excellent reviews would be the Anandtech one, and GSMarena which also has a review of the iPhone 4 for the OP to compare with).
 

ASIDE: I've seen that drop test posted loads of places, but hadn't viewed it until now - EEEK! I've dropped by S2 a few times onto lino and suffered no damage whatsoever, so it doesn't surprise me that much (I hope people who have watched the video are getting the distinction I draw between build materials and build quality now!).

 




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  Reply # 539052 29-Oct-2011 17:53 Send private message

lokhor:
McDave:
vinnieg:
McDave:
Thanks to Apple's full ownership of the product and design choices:  iPhone4S not only has a dual-core CPU but also has dual-core graphics which comprehensively outperfoms all Android phones but more importantly


You haven't really quoted a link, the Nexus Prime and GS2 both have quad core graphics and on any browser that's not the stock, the sunspider tests are a lot better

Unfortunately, since they are two different eco systems, it's hard to compare real world GPU performance.  I just wish more IOS and Android games and vice versa came out between both platforms, with benchmarks.

Maybe Quake 3 benchmarks on both would give a good result


Sorry I thought this was common knowledge...http://tiny.cc/le9va.  I can only find old references to Quake 3 which put a jailbroken 2008 Gen1/2 iPod Touch at 25FPS and a Galaxy I at around 40, no A4 or A5 based figures though.

When it comes to graphics, Cambridge is good but Oxford is better though, back on-topic, why the Galaxy Nexus (allegedly) drops back to an OMAP4460 with it's (comparatively) choked memory bus and weaker single-core SGX540 is bizarre.  Apparently it's due to Exynos compatibility issues - when is a platform, not a platform?


I don't think the SGX540 is a terrible choice as it's main weakness was being paired with single channel ram and having a low clock speed. The OMAP 4460 runs the SGX540 @ 384mhz and has Dual Chanel LPDDR2 memory so will likely perform quite well.  


Fair point but it's a few generations (2007) back & single core technology, hardly flagship hardware as the benchmarks show.  With the 4S arriving by the end of the year with double the performance there's not much contest.

@NZTechFreak:  Bear in mind the 32/64GB 4S options will match the Galaxy storage, without the hassle of file management and a set of cloud services (and a data package) which makes much local storage redundant anyway.

(Hmmm, I seem to have too much time on my hands on a Saturday!) 

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  Reply # 539101 29-Oct-2011 22:00 Send private message

I agree with NZTechfreak. It has been a good discussion.

I am an iPhone4/iPad2 user and for me, I really like iOS. I'm not a MAC user or have an Apple bend.

I do have to say thay I do get annoyed by some comments here in gerneral, that are more anti-Apple than pro Android, but for every biased fanboy comment I have seen in the past, this thread has been well presented. I am pleased with that. From a smartphone literate person that I am, it has been interesting reading, and for those less literate, such as the OP, it has been invaluable. Great to see.

All 3 platforms are good, in fact, very good. We will see continual evolvement in Apple, Google, and Microsoft as each platform does its best to get the best position in what will be a "big three" smartphone consumer environment. Thats a good topic in itself.

But cheers to all for providing a well represented discussion that I hope has helped the OP. At last call he is looking at Galaxy S2, so job done!

Cheers
T


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  Reply # 539653 31-Oct-2011 17:49 Send private message

nakedmolerat: Have you considered Motorola RAZR Spyder - available on 1st Nov. Ice cream sandwich update will be available early 2012 for this phone. splashproof, kevlar and alumunium built will make this phone tough as. if you are not in a hurry, you can wait for extensive review by NZtechfreak


looking forward to the review - and maybe not the right place to ask this question but I wanted to know about the XT compatibility for the Razr - from the below I am confused as it says only support for 2100 MHz but not the 850 MHz... 

 GSM/GPRS Yes    Frequencies 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G/HSPA Yes       Frequencies 1900/2100 Mhz

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  Reply # 539662 31-Oct-2011 18:11 Send private message

njd0505:
nakedmolerat: Have you considered Motorola RAZR Spyder - available on 1st Nov. Ice cream sandwich update will be available early 2012 for this phone. splashproof, kevlar and alumunium built will make this phone tough as. if you are not in a hurry, you can wait for extensive review by NZtechfreak


looking forward to the review - and maybe not the right place to ask this question but I wanted to know about the XT compatibility for the Razr - from the below I am confused as it says only support for 2100 MHz but not the 850 MHz... 

 GSM/GPRS Yes    Frequencies 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G/HSPA Yes       Frequencies 1900/2100 Mhz


GSM Arena says it is quad band, supporting HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100

http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_razr_xt912-4101.php 




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