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  Reply # 556262 10-Dec-2011 10:27 Send private message

HTC Titan is tri band UMTS 850/900/2100. You can buy it via clove.co.uk or handtec.co.uk




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  Reply # 556263 10-Dec-2011 10:28 Send private message

lyonrouge: all pentabands the same band combinations (850/900/1800/1900/2100)? In the old tri-band days the combination of bands could differ, i.e. North America and the rest (excluding Japan).


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  Reply # 556318 10-Dec-2011 12:51 Send private message

lyonrouge: So this list I have stands at:

Nokia N8, N9, E7, C7
Samsung Galaxy Sii, Galaxy Mini
Apple iPhone 4 / 4S


The Galaxy Mini is dual band 3G. There are a few other Nokias that are quad band 3G, the X3-02 touch and type and the new touch and type one (300 I think).

GSMArena also lists the HTC Sensation XL as Tri band HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100, although I doubt this is accurate.

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lyonrouge: all pentabands the same band combinations (850/900/1800/1900/2100)? In the old tri-band days the combination of bands could differ, i.e. North America and the rest (excluding Japan).


You need to fit 1700Mhz in there for AWS also.



Aren't most Pentaband handsets 850/900/1700/1900/2100? (with many having secret UMTS800MHz support being thrown in as well, making most Heptaband?)




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  Reply # 556354 10-Dec-2011 13:43 Send private message

You can search for phones by frequency here: http://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3.
A quick search of GSM 850,900,1800,1900 & UMTS 850,900,2100 shows up some 65 phones 

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codyc1515: You can search for phones by frequency here: http://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3.
A quick search of GSM 850,900,1800,1900 & UMTS 850,900,2100 shows up some 65 phones


I'm not sure I'd trust their specs totally.




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codyc1515: You can search for phones by frequency here: http://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3.
A quick search of GSM 850,900,1800,1900 & UMTS 850,900,2100 shows up some 65 phones

I'm not sure I'd trust their specs totally.

Yes, as a for instance (unrelated to pentaband) that site lists the P500 as having 900 HSDPA, but I feel certain the version sold in NZ as a Telecom phone will be 850 HSDPA, and most likely 900 HSDPA is unavailable on the Telecom phone. The Vodafone version will probably be the opposite. Unless both are quad - that would be nice. Please don't rely on any thing I just said either - I'm still figuring this out. ; ).

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  Reply # 556459 10-Dec-2011 20:53 Send private message

lyonrouge:
Technofreak:
lyonrouge: Thank for the info, but I'm looking to identify which handsets would allow one to port between the network providers and roaming partners. I believe the combination of bands to move between providers would be:

UMTS(900/2100 MHz) + GSM(850/900/1800/1900 MHz)


I think you need to add 850 to the UMTS list to allow full 3G compatibility on all three networks.


Thanks, is 850 XT or Voda 3G? 


ignore the GSM flavours, none of them apply to XT.  UMTS, WCDMA, 3G are often used to describe the same thing... you need UMTS 850/900/2100.




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LG 2X & Atrix also do both 850 + 900 3G.




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codyc1515: You can search for phones by frequency here: http://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3.
A quick search of GSM 850,900,1800,1900 & UMTS 850,900,2100 shows up some 65 phones 


GSM Arena is unreliable as a source of phone specs.
 




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munchkin: 
Aren't most Pentaband handsets 850/900/1700/1900/2100? (with many having secret UMTS800MHz support being thrown in as well, making most Heptaband?)


No, IIRC 800MHz and 850MHz are in reference to the same band. TDMA 025 was an 800MHz network, but this frequency allocation is being used to provide XT services on the 850MHz band, which is a more accurate description. of the frequency allocation. It's not a new band.

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munchkin: 
Aren't most Pentaband handsets 850/900/1700/1900/2100? (with many having secret UMTS800MHz support being thrown in as well, making most Heptaband?)


No, IIRC 800MHz and 850MHz are in reference to the same band. TDMA 025 was an 800MHz network, but this frequency allocation is being used to provide XT services on the 850MHz band, which is a more accurate description. of the frequency allocation. It's not a new band.

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That's what I thought, but I've been told otherwise by a few smart cookies; The way it was explained to me it that  UMTS 800MHz (both bands 6 and 19) is more of a sub-band of 850MHz in the sense that it's frequency range is narrower, which is why I'll sometimes find my phone running on the same channels an 800MHz network would use, sometimes not. It's a new band in the sense of definition only, and even then, the only use it finds is in Japan.


 




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  Reply # 556539 11-Dec-2011 08:18 Send private message

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nzbnw:
munchkin: 
Aren't most Pentaband handsets 850/900/1700/1900/2100? (with many having secret UMTS800MHz support being thrown in as well, making most Heptaband?)


No, IIRC 800MHz and 850MHz are in reference to the same band. TDMA 025 was an 800MHz network, but this frequency allocation is being used to provide XT services on the 850MHz band, which is a more accurate description. of the frequency allocation. It's not a new band.

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That's what I thought, but I've been told otherwise by a few smart cookies; The way it was explained to me it that  UMTS 800MHz (both bands 6 and 19) is more of a sub-band of 850MHz in the sense that it's frequency range is narrower, which is why I'll sometimes find my phone running on the same channels an 800MHz network would use, sometimes not. It's a new band in the sense of definition only, and even then, the only use it finds is in Japan.


 


UMTS 850 and UMTS 800 are two different things, band VI and XIX are only used in Japan. Band V uses the same 824-894 frequencies as GSM880 and AMPS/DAMPS, whereas VI and XIX use smaller bands within the same frequency block.




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