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Topic # 139206 31-Jan-2014 11:37 Send private message

With the arrival of my first child I finally have some data I wish to backup offsite, primarily family photos! The photo's aren't huge and are primarily taken by my partner using an average point and shoot, as such I don't need significant capacity.

Thus far I've taken a look at Crashplan and Google Drive.

Google Drive seems ideal (free!) but it only sync's from a predefined Google folder located inside My Documents. The photos are currently stored on D Drive and I don't really want to duplicate their storage across D Drive and My Documents.

Crashplan looks good but was hoping there might be a free solution similar to Google?

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  Reply # 977961 31-Jan-2014 11:42 Send private message

I'm with Crashplan and very happy with it. Unlimited storage means I do a few other things including reasonably large home videos. They often have special offers\discount codes for your first year (I got my first year completely free on their black friday sale a couple of years ago - I was more than happy to pay for the second year a few months back)

If you have friends\family who wouldn't mind you using some of their bandwidth\HDD space you can also use Crashplan to do free backups.

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  Reply # 977963 31-Jan-2014 11:43 Send private message

Hey,

Crashplan user myself (paid version but can't put a price on Family photos).

I believe that Crashplan, as part of their free package, will let you backup over the web onto a friends machine. Say someone else installs crashplan on their machine and let you upload your stuff there and keep it safe for you. Obviously needs to be someone you trust, etc, but might be an option to keep cost down.

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  Reply # 977967 31-Jan-2014 11:46 One person supports this post Send private message

anything that just syncs, really isn't a backup. You delete locally then it synchs the delete up and you're hosed.

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  Reply # 977982 31-Jan-2014 11:55 Send private message

CrashPlan user here as well. Works well. Have the paid family plan after the free Black Friday promo expired after 1 year.

Edit - Google Drive, SkyDrive/OneDrive, iCloud, DropBox are NOT backup solutions. They are simply cloud storage solutions that syncs your data across multiple devices and you can use them as web viewer as well.




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  Reply # 977989 31-Jan-2014 12:05 Send private message

Crashplan. As Nathan said, "sync" is not "backup".




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  Reply # 978048 31-Jan-2014 13:10 Send private message

Also a Crashplan user, nothing but good things to say about them. Have used Google Sync and Dropbox etc, but as has been mentioned, when you delete something it will be deleted from the sync'ed service.




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  Reply # 978051 31-Jan-2014 13:11 Send private message

What about Flickr,
1TB of photo storage for free.

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  Reply # 978061 31-Jan-2014 13:20 Send private message

The syncing of photos to the cloud guards against computer failure, but not human error or virus for example because the error or virus (remember CryptoLocker?) will be replicated to the online storage.

Suggested options:

Blu-Ray drives are getting cheap for 50Gb write-once storage.  Burn 2 copies - one to keep on site and one to keep off site.  Buy 2 different brands of disc and burn one copy to each brand, just in case of a manufacturing fault.

Or buy a new USB HDD every year for 3 years (before recycling the old one) and back up once a quarter to this drive.  At worst you would lose a year's photos.  Keep one on site and one at the other two at the in-laws.




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  Reply # 978063 31-Jan-2014 13:21 Send private message

Dynamic: The syncing of photos to the cloud guards against computer failure, but not human error or virus for example.


That's why people suggested using Crashplan, which is a backup solution (with versioning, etc) instead of a sync solution.




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  Reply # 978074 31-Jan-2014 13:38 Send private message

Ahhhh thanks freitasm.  Never tried Crashplan.

I still like the old school reassurance of having a copy on optical disc just in case it hits the fan for some reason.  That's one of my annual 'Christmas Holidays' jobs at home.




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  Reply # 978076 31-Jan-2014 13:42 Send private message

Dynamic: Ahhhh thanks freitasm.  Never tried Crashplan.

I still like the old school reassurance of having a copy on optical disc just in case it hits the fan for some reason.  That's one of my annual 'Christmas Holidays' jobs at home.


Also crashplan have a couple of other options - being able to back up locally (another folder/drive in the same machine), another local computer - or to a friends computer - all for free.

I stopped all optical backups when i bought crashplan - and I'd recommend backing up locally at least until your entire backup is uploaded to crashplans servers - as it may take a while depending on your upload speed/data cap.





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  Reply # 978120 31-Jan-2014 14:35 Send private message

davidcole:
Dynamic: Ahhhh thanks freitasm.  Never tried Crashplan.

I still like the old school reassurance of having a copy on optical disc just in case it hits the fan for some reason.  That's one of my annual 'Christmas Holidays' jobs at home.


Also crashplan have a couple of other options - being able to back up locally (another folder/drive in the same machine), another local computer - or to a friends computer - all for free.

I stopped all optical backups when i bought crashplan - and I'd recommend backing up locally at least until your entire backup is uploaded to crashplans servers - as it may take a while depending on your upload speed/data cap.



I would only consider cloud backups as a 3rd copy, and have everything backed up on at least one drive  locally too. Has anyone actually had to restore data from and online backup company, and has anyone had any problems, such as the online backup not being able to be retrieved, files missing of corrupt, or the company disappearing.

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  Reply # 978122 31-Jan-2014 14:37 One person supports this post Send private message

I have a local sync copy to my HP Microserver. And a sync copy on Microsoft SkyDrive/OneDrive. And a backup on Crashplan.

Yes, restored a few files from Crashplan before - mainly the SQL database backups from Geekzone, which I restored in another VM at home to make sure the backup files were accessible and readable after restore.

Because when you create a backup you have to restore things to make sure it works, right?




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  Reply # 978123 31-Jan-2014 14:38 Send private message

mattwnz:
davidcole:
Dynamic: Ahhhh thanks freitasm.  Never tried Crashplan.

I still like the old school reassurance of having a copy on optical disc just in case it hits the fan for some reason.  That's one of my annual 'Christmas Holidays' jobs at home.


Also crashplan have a couple of other options - being able to back up locally (another folder/drive in the same machine), another local computer - or to a friends computer - all for free.

I stopped all optical backups when i bought crashplan - and I'd recommend backing up locally at least until your entire backup is uploaded to crashplans servers - as it may take a while depending on your upload speed/data cap.



I would only consider cloud backups as a 3rd copy, and have everything backed up on at least one drive  locally too. Has anyone actually had to restore data from and online backup company, and has anyone had any problems, such as the online backup not being able to be retrieved, files missing of corrupt, or the company disappearing.


I've restored a couple of GB at a time from cloud.  Haven't had any problems.




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  Reply # 978361 31-Jan-2014 22:11 Send private message

billgates: CrashPlan user here as well. Works well. Have the paid family plan after the free Black Friday promo expired after 1 year.

Edit - Google Drive, SkyDrive/OneDrive, iCloud, DropBox are NOT backup solutions. They are simply cloud storage solutions that syncs your data across multiple devices and you can use them as web viewer as well.


I completely disagree. DropBox is the BEST and easiest backup solutions.

Dropbox with packrat addon = ultimate backup solution IMHO

All pictures from my phones will be uploaded straight to Dropbox.

My Thecus NAS with Dropbox module will automatically store a copy as well (for offline solutions).

I can access the pics from my laptops, desktop, pad etc. I don't need to sync everything as those GBs of files are available on my NAS for local access.





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